Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Joshua-Pulev, Spence-Crawford, Danny Garcia

[wrecksracer]

Canelo fought GGG 22 months after beating Cotto.

It has been 30 months since Crawford beat Horn. That’s 8 months more than any unification with Errol Spence! What’s the similarity? Money! Crawford vs Spence have been crying about A side splits. GGG was never an accomplished “seller” like Canelo, and Canelo has had more PPVs than any of these mentioned.

Need more knowledge? My pleasure.

The difference is that Crawford or Spence don’t have mandos or a purse bid in front of them.

Your question should be, “why did Canelo vacate?” The answer is simple, K2 Loeffler didn’t accept GBP’s offer or agreement with splits because they felt they deserved more money having 3 belts.

Therefore, in a similar situation, how many belts did AJ have when for 2+ years the hot topic was Wilder? Did Wilder agree to splits?

All these scenarios have to do with money!

I’ll save the best part for last!

In all these scenarios! Canelo still fought GGG whereas all these other fights never or didn’t happen. And what’s better, Canelo fought twice against a guy u guy claim he “ducked.”

Nobody believes Canelo “ducked” GGG because it doesn’t make sense.

How u like them apples?

It's all excuses. He ducked his biggest money pay day. Waited 2 years. They should have changed his nickname from "Canelo" to "Orina" lol

[Thuglife Nelo]

It's all excuses. He ducked his biggest money pay day. Waited 2 years. They should have changed his nickname from "Canelo" to "Orina" lol

What excuse? Lol

Canelo last fought GGG in 2018. Those fights look great on his resume because he “ducked.” Lol

[Doubledagger]

Canelo fought GGG 22 months after beating Cotto.

It has been 30 months since Crawford beat Horn. That’s 8 months more than any unification with Errol Spence! What’s the similarity? Money! Crawford vs Spence have been crying about A side splits. GGG was never an accomplished “seller” like Canelo, and Canelo has had more PPVs than any of these mentioned.

Need more knowledge? My pleasure.

The difference is that Crawford or Spence don’t have mandos or a purse bid in front of them.

Your question should be, “why did Canelo vacate?” The answer is simple, K2 Loeffler didn’t accept GBP’s offer or agreement with splits because they felt they deserved more money having 3 belts.

Therefore, in a similar situation, how many belts did AJ have when for 2+ years the hot topic was Wilder? Did Wilder agree to splits?

All these scenarios have to do with money!

I’ll save the best part for last!

In all these scenarios! Canelo still fought GGG whereas all these other fights never or didn’t happen. And what’s better, Canelo fought twice against a guy u guy claim he “ducked.”

Nobody believes Canelo “ducked” GGG because it doesn’t make sense.

How u like them apples?

Stop lying the issue wasn’t just money. Canelo was insisting on 155lbs catchweight or no fight, sticking to his modus operandi of using Caneloweight to duck dangerous opponents.

[Doubledagger]

The WBO rolled with Arum or Warren to diss day!! Arum pressured the WBO to have Floyd stripped. Think about it. When was the last time that Floyd made a legit 154 defense? It’s ironic, Floyd cried that he wanted to give other fighters a “chance” to win belts yet didn’t relinquish 154, which he still didn’t plan to defend.

Therefore, Floyd could’ve easily paid the 200K to the WBO and make a defense against Bradley since he was wasting time at 154. To be honest, I don’t know the mandatory rotations for Floyd at the time across both weight classes, but Floyd could’ve showed the boxing world how he would’ve tamed Bradley better than how PAC did without controversy.

Or who knows, maybe Floyd was scared of Bradley should it go to the cards

These all have reasons. Same reason GBP didn’t agree with splits with K2 after Canelo beat Khan.

Bradley already robbed Pac on the cards and could definitely have robbed Floyd too if the powers that be willed it, which in all honesty they would have.

Anyone who thinks Floyd fights Pac, Maidana twice, and Canelo but is scared of Bradley is just plain ******.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Stop lying the issue wasn’t just money. Canelo was insisting on 155lbs catchweight or no fight, sticking to his modus operandi of using Caneloweight to duck dangerous opponents.

No. Canelo told media before the Cotto fight that if GGG wanted to fight he would have to fight Canelo at his weight. The same weight that GGG bragged about making “easy.” GGG was asked before May vs PAC, “would you like to fight the winner of Floyd vs PAC at 154lbs.” GGG replied, “absolutely, 100 percent.” GGG asked Ward for 164, and Floyd made Canelo come to 152. Cmon I thought you knew the business?!

And you’re not even understanding catchweights. If the narrative was that Canelo was bigger than GGG then Canelo would be disadvantaging himself with performance to beat GGG. Lol. Get it? In other words, GGG diehards swore and believed GGG’s own word that he could make 154 easily. Therefore, Canelo would be disadvantaging himself while helping GGG? Lol

Debunked!

Canelo yet still fought GGG at 160 while a year earlier he told Ward 164 doe!

Ward helps the Canelo vs GGg scenario! It’s all karma!

[Thuglife Nelo]

Bradley already robbed Pac on the cards and could definitely have robbed Floyd too if the powers that be willed it, which in all honesty they would have.

Anyone who thinks Floyd fights Pac, Maidana twice, and Canelo but is scared of Bradley is just plain ******.

Bradley would beat Berto by UD. So anybody who thinks GBP would’ve agreed to K2’s splits or go to purse bid is plain ******.

You don’t understand boxing if you create the premise that a fighter “robbed” the other fighter. Only naive fans think promoters aren’t the schemers behind it. You meant to say Arum robbed Manny? Or Bradley took a bank loan for the judges?

[wrecksracer]

What excuse? Lol

Canelo last fought GGG in 2018. Those fights look great on his resume because he “ducked.” Lol

Ducked him when they were mandated to fight. Canelo ran off with his tail between his legs. Everybody sees what happened. He waited til GGG looked vulnerable. Canelo has a great resume, but he can never be considered the greatest Mexican fighter because of that duck.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Ducked him when they were mandated to fight. Canelo ran off with his tail between his legs. Everybody sees what happened. He waited til GGG looked vulnerable. Canelo has a great resume, but he can never be considered the greatest Mexican fighter because of that duck.

GGG ducked Canelo. “Big money fight” and ducked Alvarez in 2015. “Canelo... he’s too big, this a disrespect to the sport.” Lol. “154-168 easy for me.” . GGG is still ducking the whole 168 division 2 diss day!

[Catch n shoot]

All I hear are excuses.

Imagine if Spence had taken a fight like that after unifying titles with Porter?

That's exactly what Teo is doing.

Spence unified titles, got into a terrible accident that almost ended his career, and STILL came back to fight a top five welterweight.

That's essentially the point here. The blatant hypocrisy. Praising Teo as a top 5 p4p and leaving Spence out of it? How does that make sense because of level of comp? How does that make sense?

You can list as many as you want but I guarantee Spence won't be one of them.

Spence fought Lamont Petersen, Mikey Garcia, Shawn Porter, and Danny Garcia after beating Brook.

All of em top fighters.

The only one was Ocampo but that was an unavoidable mandatory. In fact Spence stated many times he didn't want Ocampo but had no choice.

Ps. The IBF actually set up another eliminator for the IBF between Ray Robinson and Ugas because they didn't believe Ocampo would take the fight but Ocampo surprised everyone, including the IBF, and called his mandatory, others Spence would have fought Ugas immediately after fighting Brook.

And I'm gonna call you guys out again on your obvious racism. Trying to remove Crawford and Spence, the black guys, from the p4p list for reasons that the guys yawl put in are far more guilty of? What's the reason for that except racism?

Is it a coincidence that the two black guys in the list are having the bar moved to an unfeasible height while all the others get a pass? Nonsense!!!

The bar being raised I've always thought of it as a testament to holding said fighters to a higher standard.

[Doubledagger]

No. Canelo told media before the Cotto fight that if GGG wanted to fight he would have to fight Canelo at his weight. The same weight that GGG bragged about making “easy.” GGG was asked before May vs PAC, “would you like to fight the winner of Floyd vs PAC at 154lbs.” GGG replied, “absolutely, 100 percent.” GGG asked Ward for 164, and Floyd made Canelo come to 152. Cmon I thought you knew the business?!

And you’re not even understanding catchweights. If the narrative was that Canelo was bigger than GGG then Canelo would be disadvantaging himself with performance to beat GGG. Lol. Get it? In other words, GGG diehards swore and believed GGG’s own word that he could make 154 easily. Therefore, Canelo would be disadvantaging himself while helping GGG? Lol

Debunked!

Canelo yet still fought GGG at 160 while a year earlier he told Ward 164 doe!

Ward helps the Canelo vs GGg scenario! It’s all karma!

You just proved what a total idiot you are.

First of all, who said GGG was biggger or smaller than Canelo? Defaq you on about?

Also, GGG said he would go down for the Floyd vs Pac winner, he didn't say he would go down for Canelo.

Thirdly, there is no such thing as Canelo's weight. There is junior middleweight and middleweight, end if story.

Finally, Canelo was holding a middleweight strap, and that he was only allowed to fight for ahead of GGG on the condition that he immediately defend it against GGG if he won it. GGG was not obligated to fight Canelo at 155lbs for his rightful mandatory shot at the title.

Ps. Are you aware that Canelo complained about the 155lbs catchweight with Cotto and tried to get the weight raised to 156lbs, and then after fighting Cotto, turned around and demanded 155lbs again, the same 155lbs he complained about before the Cotto fight.

So your boy wants to raise the weight when fighting a smaller opponent and decrease it when fighting a similar sized opponent? And you out here defending this fraud?

Weight drain catchweight demands for GGG, rehydration clauses for Jacobs, short notice and rehydration clause for Kovalev, short notice for Callum Smith, robbery score cards.

Lol, get defaq out here. You aint debunked shieet!!!