The Ring: Spence/Pacquiao could result in lineal welterweight champion being crowned

[Larry the boss]

last Ring champ at WW was Mayweather

[Larry the boss]

No. Horn was unranked by The Ring when he fought Manny and Crawford was lower than #3 when he fought Horn, who was #5.

If you read what I wrote, lineal went vacant when Manny lost to Horn.

If you are using Ring, Manny never held the ring title at 147..last ring champ was Mayweather..If you have the ring and lose it does not matter where the person who beat you was ranked..Look at Joshua-Ruiz

[Combat Talk Radio]

Ring has nothing to do with Lineal championship. The Ring belt is The Ring belt. Ring stopped even giving championships in the late 80's and started doing it again in the early 00's so by your logic, there's twenty years with no lineal champions.

Once again, the holder of The Ring is recognized as lineal. Which is why Tyson Fury (who just won the vacant Ring) is recognized lineal.

I get it, guys. The thought of Errol Spence becoming lineal scares you. Manny could still pull it out, stop freaking.

[_Rexy_]

Once again, the holder of The Ring is recognized as lineal. Which is why Tyson Fury (who just won the vacant Ring) is recognized lineal.

I get it, guys. The thought of Errol Spence becoming lineal scares you. Manny could still pull it out, stop freaking.

Tyson was already Lineal when he beat Wilder. THAT is why he is recognized as lineal. He won the Ring belt back. It was stripped from him, and he won it back. Had someone else won it during that time, they would not have been lineal.

[Combat Talk Radio]

last Ring champ at WW was Mayweather

Who retired while holding it Manny picked it up (vacant) by beating Bradley.

[Combat Talk Radio]

If you are using Ring, Manny never held the ring title at 147..last ring champ was Mayweather..If you have the ring and lose it does not matter where the person who beat you was ranked..Look at Joshua-Ruiz

Fury holds Ring, bro. What the hell are you talking about??

[Larry the boss]

Who retired while holding it Manny picked it up (vacant) by beating Bradley.

Ring title was not up for grabs in that fight ,man..Here is the list of all the ww's who held the ring title


Number Champion Reign
1 Republic of Ireland Jimmy McLarnin 1933 – May 28, 1934
2 United States Barney Ross May 28, 1934 – September 17, 1934
3 Republic of Ireland Jimmy McLarnin September 17, 1934 – May 28, 1935
4 United States Barney Ross May 28, 1935 – May 31, 1938
5 United States Henry Armstrong May 31, 1938 – October 4, 1940
6 United States Fritzie Zivic October 4, 1940 – July 29, 1941
7 United States Freddie Cochrane July 29, 1941 – February 1, 1946
8 United States Marty Servo February 1, 1946 – September 25, 1946 (retired)
9 United States Sugar Ray Robinson (def. Tommy Bell) December 20, 1946 – 1951
10 Cuba Kid Gavilán (def. Billy Graham]) August 29, 1951 – October 20, 1954
11 United States Johnny Saxton October 20, 1954 – April 1, 1955
12 United States Tony DeMarco April 1, 1955 – June 10, 1955
13 United States Carmen Basilio June 10, 1955 – March 14, 1956
14 United States Johnny Saxton March 14, 1956 – September 12, 1956
15 United States Carmen Basilio September 12, 1956 – September 23, 1957 (vacated after winning the Middleweight Title)
16 United States Virgil Akins (def. Vince Martinez) June 6, 1958 – December 5, 1958
17 United States Don Jordan December 5, 1958 – May 27, 1960
18 Cuba Benny Paret May 27, 1960 – April 1, 1961
19 United States ****** Islands Emile Griffith April 1, 1961 – September 30, 1961
20 Cuba Benny Paret September 30, 1961 – March 24, 1962
21 United States ****** Islands Emile Griffith March 24, 1962 – March 21, 1963
22 Cuba Luis Manuel Rodríguez March 21, 1963 – June 8, 1963
23 United States ****** Islands Emile Griffith June 8, 1963 – April 25, 1966 (vacated after winning the Middleweight Title)
24 United States Curtis Cokes (def. Jean Josselin) November 28, 1966 – April 18, 1969
25 Cuba José Nápoles April 18, 1969 – December 3, 1970
26 United States Billy Backus December 3, 1970 – June 4, 1971
27 Cuba José Nápoles June 4, 1971 – December 6, 1975
28 United Kingdom John Stracey December 6, 1975 – June 22, 1976
29 Mexico Carlos Palomino June 22, 1976 – January 14, 1979
30 Puerto Rico Wilfred Benítez January 14, 1979 – November 30, 1979
31 United States Sugar Ray Leonard November 30, 1979 – June 20, 1980
32 Panama Roberto Durán June 20, 1980 – November 25, 1980
33 United States Sugar Ray Leonard November 25, 1980 – November 9, 1982 (retired)
34 United States Donald Curry (def. Milton McCrory) December 6, 1985 – September 27, 1986
35 United Kingdom Lloyd Honeyghan September 27, 1986 – October 27, 1987
36 Mexico Jorge Vaca October 27, 1987 – March 29, 1988
37 United Kingdom Lloyd Honeyghan March 29, 1988 – February 4, 1989
38 United States Marlon Starling February 4, 1989 (new ownership discontinued championship policy during Starling's reign)
39 United States Vernon Forrest (def. Shane Mosley) January 26, 2002 – January 25, 2003
40 Nicaragua Ricardo Mayorga January 25, 2003 – December 13, 2003
41 United States Cory Spinks December 13, 2003 – February 5, 2005
42 United States Zab Judah February 5, 2005 – January 7, 2006
43 Argentina Carlos Manuel Baldomir January 7, 2006 – November 4, 2006
44 United States Floyd Mayweather Jr. November 4, 2006 – June 29, 2008 (retired)
45 United States Floyd Mayweather Jr. (def. Robert Guerrero) May 4, 2013 – September 12, 2015 (retired)



it has been vacant since 2015

[Combat Talk Radio]

Tyson was already Lineal when he beat Wilder. THAT is why he is recognized as lineal. He won the Ring belt back. It was stripped from him, and he won it back. Had someone else won it during that time, they would not have been lineal.

Apparently you forgot the many posts around here arguing that he wasn't lineal.

You also forgot Wilder saying in an interview that he wasn't.

People need to make up their minds. Regardless, he is RECOGNIZED as lineal, starting from him winning Ring.

[_Rexy_]

Apparently you forgot the many posts around here arguing that he wasn't lineal.

You also forgot Wilder saying in an interview that he wasn't.

People need to make up their minds. Regardless, he is RECOGNIZED as lineal, starting from him winning Ring.

So your proof is that posters on here argued that he wasn't lineal?


JFC. We're done here.

[Larry the boss]

Fury holds Ring, bro. What the hell are you talking about??

meant Tyson-Douglass...typo