Comments Thread For: Joshua Believes WBO Should Hold Fury Unification Above Usyk Defense

[Marchegiano]

TBH, I don't give a **** about the WBO or IBF but I really don't give a **** about the WBO. Both are just off-shoots of the WBA and both have origins in the 80s. It's not Marciano's belt, not Ali's belt, not Dempsey's belt, y'all get the point.

The greatest WBO champions are Wlad and Josh right? Enough said. Joshua doesn't need to make that belt anymore important if they don't give a **** about the importance of having their title on a worth a **** champ.


Joshua >>>> WBO

[Roberto Vasquez]

The fight was at SHW in the ams. No way Joyce could have made 199. And Joyce wasn't a "novice amateur" that fight was at the World Series of Boxing in 2013, one year after Joyce won the English National Championship.

Fair enough but that fight still means nothing. Since when do amateur fights determine what happen in the pros?

Joyce had only been boxing for 5 years at that point. Usyk had been boxing a lot longer. Joyce had achieved massively by even being in that series.

I get you like Usyk but he has only beaten Derek Chisora over 12 rounds at HW. I'm sure you are one of the people who has a reason why Dillian Whyte didn't deserve a shot at Wilder after 2 years. So why so happy to give Usyk a pass?

[_Rexy_]

Fair enough but that fight still means nothing. Since when do amateur fights determine what happen in the pros?

Joyce had only been boxing for 5 years at that point. Usyk had been boxing a lot longer. Joyce had achieved massively by even being in that series.

I get you like Usyk but he has only beaten Derek Chisora over 12 rounds at HW. I'm sure you are one of the people who has a reason why Dillian Whyte didn't deserve a shot at Wilder after 2 years. So why so happy to give Usyk a pass?

Usyk gets a pass because he actually earned it. Whyte had not. Usyk became mandatory by WBO rules while Whyte refused to fight eliminators as every WBC mandatory before him had to.

[_Rexy_]

Fury has been a Heavyweight his whole life, he was tested and in his prime. 27 years old against a 39 year old Wlad.

Usyk must have questions about himself at Heavyweight after that Chisora performance. I get that he doesn't want to risk that payday though.

What was wrong with the performance? I thought it was standard he stuck to his game plan, wore down Del Boy, gave him the early rounds then took over. 117-111 on my card. Was the fight I expected it to be.

[Ray*]

They will and they should, all the four major belts matters in this undisputed fight. Beat Pulev sign to fight Fury simple, the PBC are not involved in this one, they can keep brainwashing their little pea brain cultists/fans but the WBO is part of the undisputed.

[South Champion]

What was wrong with the performance? I thought it was standard he stuck to his game plan, wore down Del Boy, gave him the early rounds then took over. 117-111 on my card. Was the fight I expected it to be.

The past his prime Chisora wasn't much of a feather in the cap for Usyk.

Usyk already beat Joyce before they were pros. Even though it would probably be a tougher fight for Usyk than last time, it won't be as hard to game plan compared to the other top ten guys, and it would be good for Usyk to have a win over an undefeated Heavyweight who's coming off an impressive stoppage of another undefeated Heavyweight.

[Roberto Vasquez]

Usyk gets a pass because he actually earned it. Whyte had not. Usyk became mandatory by WBO rules while Whyte refused to fight eliminators as every WBC mandatory before him had to.

Whyte fought more top-10 ranked boxers than Wilder did at the time. Only top-10 fighter Wilder had beaten back then was Ortiz. Why does Whyte have to fight better opponents than the champion to get a shot?

Usyk fights Witherspoon (maybe just inside the top 50) and an old CHisora (ranked 12 at best)and deserves it apparently.

[_Rexy_]

Whyte fought more top-10 ranked boxers than Wilder did at the time. Only top-10 fighter Wilder had beaten back then was Ortiz. Why does Whyte have to fight better opponents than the champion to get a shot?

Usyk fights Witherspoon (maybe just inside the top 50) and an old CHisora (ranked 12 at best)and deserves it apparently.

I don't make the rules. Wilder fought a final eliminator to get his title shot, just like every other wbc challenger and champion before him. It doesn't matter how many good fighters you fight if you avoid the ones mandated by the organization. You don't get to turn down everyone mandated and move the goalposts to your whim. If your boss tells you to do a job, do you do it? or do you do what you want and then say "well I did more of what you didn't ask than that guy, so give me a raise!"


Usyk deserves it because of the WBO rules. he was WBO champ and moved up to Heavyweight. Do you keep the same energy when this happens in literally all of the other weight classes? That rule is the reason we are getting potential FOTY with Ioka/Tanaka. That rule gave us Crawford/Horn. That rule is the only way that Andrade/Saunders is ever going to happen too. Happens often, and nobody cares until Usyk moves up to challenge Joshua then it's "no he hasn't earned it"

[JRB123]

The Whyte situation with the WBC gets brought up because the WBC was not clear about the mandatory spot and setting up final eliminators. They never put Whyte in position for a final eliminator until the Wilder-Fury rematch was initially announced, then when it was shot down it was removed from him getting an opportunity. Even when he won the interim title he still was going to wait over 12 months given the timeframe of what was happening with the WBC title.

Wilder being in a final eliminator against Malik Scott made no sense give that Scott was not in the top 20 of the WBC rankings.