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  • #11
    Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post
    And to be honest, Collard’s striking skills will be absolutely superior when we see him back in MMA. Freestyle Wrestlers, catch-wrestlers, and BJJ/Judo grapplers generally have nowhere near the skills a pro boxer will in stand up and even the kickboxers, Thai boxers, Savateurs, Sanshou guys, Kenpo guys etc arnt going to have the punching power Collard would have. I expect to see the majority of his fights either ending by knockout outright or stoppages due to facial injuries
    Hes fun to watch but the dude was a bum in MMA and still would be now. Its just that boxing fans undersell MMA striking so now have to construct some narrative that he must be an exception, rather than a bum that went 1-3 in the UFC and got absolutely lit up by Max Holloway. Doubt the guy punches harder than Conor or Gaethje at 155 and he probably wouldnt be a top 5 puncher at 170 either.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by noone View Post
      collard kinda exposed boxings fake pro records. in pro boxing, a fighter can go 20-0 with 20 ko´s and still be absolutly incompetent.
      Tyrone Brunson. He held the record for most first round KOs to start a career, then the record came to a screeching halt with a draw to a journeyman. He himself became a journeyman.

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      • #13
        Dude can fight. Gonna keep eye out for this MMA league. Sounds interesting. Be good to see Claressa shields debut in there too!!

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75 View Post
          I like this guy’s attitude. This is why I like when MMA guys give boxing a whirl. Because they don’t care about a “0” that boxers these days are hung up on. All they want to do is fight fight fight. It’s because the best are ALWAYS fighting the best.

          Once upon a time boxing mentality was that of MMA. “0” meant less than mixing it up with the best and sorting out who was the top dog. All knew that win or lose they were all going to get paid. I place a large amount of blame on the fans of the sport who happen to be the most venomous of all sports.

          Today “boxing fans” are a cancer to the sport. Now if you lose a fight you were “exposed” you were “garbage” you fought “tomato cans” you were “over rated” all along. This gets pasted all over social media because the know nothings don’t know the sport. Today not a single fan can spot an iota of talent because if that fighter doesn’t have a “0” he’s trash. Even PFP greatest of all time SRR would be called trash. Fans need to get a grip
          I thi k you are just trying to justify the crappy records of mma fighters.

          Originally posted by Get em up View Post
          Real boxing fans dont give 2 ****s about an L as long the fighters fight.
          Reality says otherwise.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Dr. Frank View Post
            I thi k you are just trying to justify the crappy records of mma fighters.



            Reality says otherwise.
            Really? They’re no crap. That’s what happens when the best are always matched against the best. See, you’re not used to records where the best is matched against the best at all times. I understand.

            If crap then please explain why the #1 PFP boxer of all time SRR has so many losses? Could it be because fighters of that era fought the best?

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            • #16
              Boricua181

              Clay Collard is a true fighter in any of these contact sports in which he chooses to compete. Boxing will miss his warrior spirit, once he goes back to MMA fighting. I'd like to see him fight Edgar Berlanga, to see if he can end his knockout streak. I believe it would be a good gage of whether Berlanga is the real deal, or just a hype job. I think it would be an exciting fight in which Collard goes a few good rounds, before ultimately becoming another knockout victim. That said he'll have tested Berlanga's chin, stamina, and fighting heart. These are all questions that haven't been answered as of yet.

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              • #17
                The Prospect Killer! I like this guy!

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Dr. Frank View Post
                  I thi k you are just trying to justify the crappy records of mma fighters.



                  Reality says otherwise.
                  It's cool if your one of the guys that would rather see a fighter win every fight because he is fighting no hopes or past primes or whatever the case may be but fact is REAL boxing fans would rather watch their guy go down in a blaze of glory in a 50/50 match up with the best of the best. The fake ass fans that prefer their guy at 5 to 1 odds aren't fans of boxing they are fans of betting favorites.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75 View Post
                    Really? They’re no crap. That’s what happens when the best are always matched against the best. See, you’re not used to records where the best is matched against the best at all times. I understand.

                    If crap then please explain why the #1 PFP boxer of all time SRR has so many losses? Could it be because fighters of that era fought the best?
                    I dont know who Dr Frank is or what he is about but I said us REAL boxing fans dont care about a L as long as they battle the best

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Get em up View Post
                      I dont know who Dr Frank is or what he is about but I said us REAL boxing fans dont care about a L as long as they battle the best
                      Cant agree with you more on this point.

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