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  • chepboxingking
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    #111
    Originally posted by batista84
    It's a tough pick, because Jermall is my number 7 on P4P just below Usyk and he's beat top opposiiton too, I just think Jermell has a better resume than Jermall.
    Fook that bs, biased p4p list lol. But i agree, it's tought. They're both excellent fighters who don't get enough recognition

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    • Bandman
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      #112
      Originally posted by techliam
      Genuine question

      Why would you rank Spence so high? Is Porter rank 6 in your list, because that fight was 50/50. Outside of Porter you have a very competitive fight with Brook, ending because of a pre-existing injury, Mike Garcia and Danny Garcia

      that’s the entirety of fights worth considering. That isn’t a top 5 P4P resume to me. With Crawford people aren’t sure how good he is as no one has really tested him, so he has that unknown factor (I disagree with him ranked so highly, but can understand). We know Spence’s level, and that is Brook/Porter level
      Spence won his belt on enemy territory vs Brook. that always gets a fighter extra points. think of Rocky vs Drago.. Rocky winning in Russia is what made it epic. Spence went to Sheffield and crushed Brook which at the time was still a top dog at 147. he just wiped his ass with Danny Garcia, giving Danny his clearest loss to date. vs Porter it was a war but Erroll's shots were more accurate and the KD was the nail in the coffin.

      I rank Crawford because you have to respect an undisputed champ. He beat Postol who was a boogeyman at the time. at 147 he beat the guy that beat Pacquiao. even though Brook was a shell of himself I still didn't expect Bud to dismantle him that way.

      Spence and Bud are both PFP top 5 for me.

      #6 since you asked would be Tyson Fury on my list.

      #7 Teofimo #8 Anthony Joshua #9 Jermell Charlo #10 Lomachenko

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      • Combat Talk Radio
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        #113
        They know, Saul. But they're in denial because of a guy's 'eye test' stoppage of the ghost of Kell Brook.

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        • CaptainWalrus
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          #114
          Originally posted by To Be Frank Doe
          Now that’s the Breadman I respect and know.
          Sorry, he doesn't read these silly forums.

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          • alexjust
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            #115
            Originally posted by To Be Frank Doe
            Speaking of “eye tests” how did Loma do against Lopez?
            Worse than he did against all other fighters he fought. Just like Tyson did against Douglas, Lewis against Rahman, Klitschko against Fury. Its a long list. Speaking of ability to appreciate context, got any of that? Out of all professional fights Loma had only one was not for the belt. When did Canelo get his?

            P.S. There is a reason Lopez won't give Loma a rematch. Outside Haney or Davis that would be the biggest money he'd make and still..

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            • No lie
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              #116
              Originally posted by Ochoa780
              Spence broke kells uninjured orbital bone buddy. And crawford hasnt been tested by anyone cause he hasnt been fought anyone that would be considered a test lol hes fought bums
              Then why don’t spence or any of the pbc dudes fight Crawford
              U can’t fight guys that don’t want to fight 😂
              Spence fans swore kell brook would give Crawford problems
              Crawford ain’t Spence

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              • ShoulderRoll
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                #117
                Originally posted by techliam
                Inoue for me

                Has no asterisks on that resume at all, blasting out top tier opponents in each division. Yes the Donaire fight was competitive but there’s literally zero cases for defeat in his run

                Canelo has a solid run of opponents. But I feel he should have lost to Golovkin in 1st fight, and the 2nd one was either way. The Jacobs fight was as competitive as Inoue/Donaire
                I bet we can find some asterisks.

                Who is the best opponent on Inoue's resume?

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by No lie
                  Then why don’t spence or any of the pbc dudes fight Crawford
                  U can’t fight guys that don’t want to fight 😂
                  Spence fans swore kell brook would give Crawford problems
                  Crawford ain’t Spence
                  Danny Garcia, Porter, Ugas, and Keith Thurman are all PBC guys who have expressed interest in fighting Crawford.

                  I don't know of many Spence fans that thought Kell Brook would give Crawford problems. Most of us said that was a sucky fight. Even Crawford's trainer BoMac called Brook a wounded duck.

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                  • Thuglife Nelo
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by CaptainWalrus
                    Sorry, he doesn't read these silly forums.
                    Of course he does. He’s a grandmaster pimp!

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                    • Thuglife Nelo
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by alexjust
                      Worse than he did against all other fighters he fought. Just like Tyson did against Douglas, Lewis against Rahman, Klitschko against Fury. Its a long list. Speaking of ability to appreciate context, got any of that? Out of all professional fights Loma had only one was not for the belt. When did Canelo get his?

                      P.S. There is a reason Lopez won't give Loma a rematch. Outside Haney or Davis that would be the biggest money he'd make and still..
                      Theories are nice...

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