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Will people ever STOP OVERRATING old primitive era boxers with little skill?

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  • Originally posted by Science View Post
    I just got finished reading a RING MAGAZINE article from a few years in degust, for several different reasons. One being how ring magazine and many boxing fans/journalist/critiques, disregard the EYE TEST.

    For example, this particular had Jack Dempsey as the 5th greatest heavyweight of all time . Dempsey in his prime was 190 pounds, had no skill (neither did his opponents) and would get CRUSHED by an average amateur middleweight of today?

    I recall one idiot (FROM THIS MESSAGE BOARD) saying how fighters were so great back then "because they fought 30-40 rounds". The reason they were able to fight all those rounds was because they didn't do anything but circle each other and hold. If you fight 30 rounds in a Boxing match that means your not doing anything.

    Logic gets thrown out the window when it comes to old primitive boxers.

    Will people ever stop overrating old fighters from the past?
    So GGG beats Dempsey?

    LLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLL

    Or maybe Lara does, that is, if he can avoid punches for 40 rounds...

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    • Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony View Post

      So GGG beats Dempsey?

      LLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLL

      Or maybe Lara does, that is, if he can avoid punches for 40 rounds...
      So dempsey fought somebody like ggg
      LLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLL crazy idiot get help

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      • Originally posted by moneytheman View Post

        So dempsey fought somebody like ggg
        LLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLL crazy idiot get help
        Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa

        GGG, Canelo, Charlo- they all beat Jack Dempsey. Wow. That's incredible. I can't imagine the beating they'd give to the 6'7" Jess Willard. They'd have to punch up- WAY up!!!!

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        • Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony View Post

          Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa

          GGG, Canelo, Charlo- they all beat Jack Dempsey. Wow. That's incredible. I can't imagine the beating they'd give to the 6'7" Jess Willard. They'd have to punch up- WAY up!!!!
          I cant imagine jess even making pro in the 70s-90s thats how bad he was

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          • Originally posted by moneytheman View Post

            I cant imagine jess even making pro in the 70s-90s thats how bad he was
            Does this ever get more specific beyond old guys suck and new guys are better? I mean, we could do that for years but it means nothing. Pure opinion. Every era has great fighters and every era has lousy fighters.

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            • Originally posted by moneytheman

              No Opinion its fact jess or none of those black and white era dudes up to 60s wouldnt make pro in 70s-now the advances in skills are way much higher this isn't Opinion its on video easy to see
              same as any sport

              If you see jack joe jess or anybody else making pro in the years I said your vision is real bad
              So, it's just your opinion then. That's what I figured. I like the old guys better. They had tougher lives and got to fight a lot more. It's a shame the modern guys fight like once a year. It's not always their fault either but it's the way it happens. I mean, in baseball, you get to see your favorite player play hundreds of games. It's a shame. But again, it's just your opinion versus mine. You haven't pointed out any concrete evidence and I don't see how you can. The eye test has always been BS. It fails all the time. Like Tyson said, it's great until you get hit and then it goes right out the window.

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              • Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony View Post

                So, it's just your opinion then. That's what I figured. I like the old guys better. They had tougher lives and got to fight a lot more. It's a shame the modern guys fight like once a year. It's not always their fault either but it's the way it happens. I mean, in baseball, you get to see your favorite player play hundreds of games. It's a shame. But again, it's just your opinion versus mine. You haven't pointed out any concrete evidence and I don't see how you can. The eye test has always been BS. It fails all the time. Like Tyson said, it's great until you get hit and then it goes right out the window.
                No Opinion its fact jess or none of those black and white era dudes up to 60s wouldnt make pro in 70s-now the advances in skills are way much higher this isn't Opinion its on video easy to see
                same as any sport

                If you see jack joe jess or anybody else making pro in the years I said your vision is real bad

                Its a vid on youtube ali vs louis 2nd link down its a side by side it not only shows ali way better movement and skills it shows people ali fought and people Joe fought

                can you not see the differences at all in advances in movement and skills your just blind to this? even thought the vid is side by side

                People ali fought moved way better and way more skilled then the Joe era
                Same goes for any era like I said before joes era compared to 70s-now they look like trash

                So no its not opinion so dont know why you said that

                https://********/6Yvvi_vzb-o
                Last edited by Ascended; 07-20-2022, 06:47 PM.

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                • Originally posted by Science View Post
                  I just got finished reading a RING MAGAZINE article from a few years in degust, for several different reasons. One being how ring magazine and many boxing fans/journalist/critiques, disregard the EYE TEST.

                  For example, this particular had Jack Dempsey as the 5th greatest heavyweight of all time . Dempsey in his prime was 190 pounds, had no skill (neither did his opponents) and would get CRUSHED by an average amateur middleweight of today?

                  I recall one idiot (FROM THIS MESSAGE BOARD) saying how fighters were so great back then "because they fought 30-40 rounds". The reason they were able to fight all those rounds was because they didn't do anything but circle each other and hold. If you fight 30 rounds in a Boxing match that means your not doing anything.

                  Logic gets thrown out the window when it comes to old primitive boxers.

                  Will people ever stop overrating old fighters from the past?
                  Bro old ****s like me need to over rate boxers from our era.

                  I still have a tetanus scar on my left shoulder

                  I grew up when we had a great fear of Russia

                  we’d have to get under our desks put our bead between our knees and hope that bombs weren’t dropped

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                  • Originally posted by Zaroku View Post

                    Bro old ****s like me need to over rate boxers from our era.

                    I still have a tetanus scar on my left shoulder

                    I grew up when we had a great fear of Russia

                    we’d have to get under our desks put our bead between our knees and hope that bombs weren’t dropped
                    you mean people like you who cant see good you should have got glasses or contacts years ago i wouldnt have to be here all the time saying how you people need to stop acting blind its not a act which is why you cant see people in 80s-now having way more skills and moves way better then the 60s-the dempsey era
                    Last edited by Ascended; 07-20-2022, 07:22 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by moneytheman View Post

                      you mean people like you who cant see good you should have got glasses years ago i wouldnt have to be here all the time saying how you people need to stop acting blind its not a act which is why you cant see people in 80s-now having way more skills and moves way better then the 60s-the dempsey era
                      Well said, my glasses are thick like coke bottle’s glass
                      i got all my teeth
                      My doctor tole me to stop eating certain foods

                      I lost so many muscle

                      Young peoples got skills

                      Techmology

                      Btw, I showed my bidness card in a showdown and smashed Donnie h

                      im kinda stuck in the 80s

                      my buddy Steve an Amazon executive
                      constantly takes Botox dyes his hair and has a plastic surgeon on tap.

                      there was a cool azz brother in the 80s
                      he looked young and his advice to me was keep moving
                      **** young wimmin and don’t slow down

                      I slowed down,

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