Will people ever STOP OVERRATING old primitive era boxers with little skill?

[TonyGe]

I just got finished reading a RING MAGAZINE article from a few years in degust, for several different reasons. One being how ring magazine and many boxing fans/journalist/critiques, disregard the EYE TEST.

For example, this particular had Jack Dempsey as the 5th greatest heavyweight of all time . Dempsey in his prime was 190 pounds, had no skill (neither did his opponents) and would get CRUSHED by an average amateur middleweight of today?

I recall one idiot (FROM THIS MESSAGE BOARD) saying how fighters were so great back then "because they fought 30-40 rounds". The reason they were able to fight all those rounds was because they didn't do anything but circle each other and hold. If you fight 30 rounds in a Boxing match that means your not doing anything.

Logic gets thrown out the window when it comes to old primitive boxers.

Will people ever stop overrating old fighters from the past?

Demsey and other fighters like him aren't overrated. They dominated the other fighters in their eras. Fighters that trained in a similar manner and fought under the same interpretation of the rules. Sports sciences have evolved so comparing fighters from different eras isn't reasonable. It's fun though and makes for lively discussions..

[aboutfkntime]

Thank you, truly are some smart people on this forum. Keep dropping gems on em'

thanks man

only a little boxing knowledge was required to make that post

most of it was common-sense

both of those things are seriously lacking from the many casuals in this forum

[aboutfkntime]

Theres only one dumb casual round here mate and you see him when you look in the mirror

this thread is just a fool's playground

surprised that you didn't start it

[Dr. Frank]

I just got finished reading a RING MAGAZINE article from a few years in degust, for several different reasons. One being how ring magazine and many boxing fans/journalist/critiques, disregard the EYE TEST.

For example, this particular had Jack Dempsey as the 5th greatest heavyweight of all time . Dempsey in his prime was 190 pounds, had no skill (neither did his opponents) and would get CRUSHED by an average amateur middleweight of today?

I recall one idiot (FROM THIS MESSAGE BOARD) saying how fighters were so great back then "because they fought 30-40 rounds". The reason they were able to fight all those rounds was because they didn't do anything but circle each other and hold. If you fight 30 rounds in a Boxing match that means your not doing anything.

Logic gets thrown out the window when it comes to old primitive boxers.

Will people ever stop overrating old fighters from the past?

No. People like to romanticize the past as if it was an encapsulation of an enchanted and mythical time. Fact is athletes are continuously improving, along with science based training. I give up. lol

Jack Dempsey would beat up Joshua and Furry at the same time.

[strykr619]

Dempsey literally wrote the book on boxing you ignorant clown:


This book is a bible for combat sports athletes of all sorts to this very day.

His power punching, come forward, bob and weave style was the prototype for Mike Tyson.

He may be physically outmatched by today's fighters but Jack Dempsey's technique and tactics are the foundation of modern boxing.

Dempsey's fight IQ alone.... People think that athletes are dumb jocks with no brains. The truly great have both physical and MENTAL talents...

[Science]

Dempsey literally wrote the book on boxing you ignorant clown:


This book is a bible for combat sports athletes of all sorts to this very day.

His power punching, come forward, bob and weave style was the prototype for Mike Tyson.

He may be physically outmatched by today's fighters but Jack Dempsey's technique and tactics are the foundation of modern boxing.

I don't give a **** about Dempsey writing a book, GO LOOK AT A DEMPSEY FIGHT. Then again, you probably don't know anything about the sweet science.

Dempsey's fight look like a tough man competition.

The reason Dempsey was elite in his day was because of his aggression and athletic ability. Dempsey was the first fighter to go in and with reckless abandon try to knock you out.

[Science]

this thread is just a fool's playground

surprised that you didn't start it

Dempsey was trash, and so were the rest of those guys. The first heavyweight to had any kind of skill was Paterson

[Roadblock]

No. People like to romanticize the past as if it was an encapsulation of an enchanted and mythical time. Fact is athletes are continuously improving, along with science based training. I give up. lol

The grass is aways greener on the other side so they say lol, the present is always under estimated and the good old day over estimated.

There is much science about how the brain embellishes memory over time.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

The OP also said that Roberto Duran didn't beat anybody good at lightweight. Let's think about that...

[BodyBagz]

Sloppy, clumsy, face 1st bum beaters