Will people ever STOP OVERRATING old primitive era boxers with little skill?

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Pep doesn't look modern and rob doesn't either ali took his style to a new level and the 50s and before are all caveman

Robinson looks modern. His footwork is beautiful, timing and technique are top notch. Ali and Pep literally danced around his opponents. How are they not modern? Pep is definition of "modern out-boxers".

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Robinson looks modern. His footwork is beautiful, timing and technique are top notch. Ali and Pep literally danced around his opponents. How are they not modern? Pep is definition of "modern out-boxers".

Cause his style isn't as good as ali ver of it which is flashy head movement/smoother punches/more punch angles and pep looks so basic with the style compared to others who were more advanced at it

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Cause his style isn't as good as ali ver of it which is flashy head movement/smoother punches/more punch angles and pep looks so basic with the style compared to others who were more advanced at it

The concept is "gap". Let's compare Pep with a caveman from 1910s and modern out-boxer Billy Joe Saunders. Which is closer to Pep? Boxing have evolved but gap is becoming smaller.

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Don't say dumb stuff crazy idiot and i wont cause I respond to who I want you were a idiot then your still one unless you can see now

Why is it you idiots hurt from the truth you shouldn't say dumb stuff and I wont like I told you

People in the sport don't argue with idiots outside of it. Stay in your lane.

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Some of these guys they hype up because of newspaper articles they read, like what in the **** you didnt even see them fight and they rating them highly.

Biggest things is back then the competition they fought, they fought a ton of bums who dont fight full time, these guys are warehouse workers, meat packers all kind of random day jobs, not full time boxers.

You look at marciano's record, this is just an example of some old timer that is overrated, there are many of them. But marciano, everyone worshiped him, his first 37 fights were against complete bums, these guys were all part time club fighters and working on farms and **** all day. They all weighted like 180 or 190. Then everyone is talking about how he could beat 99% of the top 30 heavies from the last few decades, get a grip people.

You can rank them good for their era fine but head to head they arent even close to competitive and their level of opposition was a joke.

People all cried when Mayweather tied and beat Marciano's record, then they want to say it dont count because connor mcgreggor was the last fight. Ok you really want to talk records, what about all the bums with losing records marciano fought? His first 37 fights are all bums. His 35th fight after 4 years was a warehouse worker bum with a 11-14-2 record. His 33rd fight the guy was 4-14-3, these guys are part time club fighters. Mayweathers 18th fight he became lineal champion only in his 2nd year as a pro. The **** is not even close. not even on the same planet.

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People in the sport don't argue with idiots outside of it. Stay in your lane.

Right and those people words mean what show me the fiction joe on video you crazy idiot and ill change my words

Cause my joe on video is stiff slow and missing advances and no outdated words can make a fiction version of a person exist

And i have no lane i say however which way of truth i want to you crazy idiot

those quote didn't work with me before and they never will

why is it others can see the same thing I say which words cant change video you idiot no words can delete or change something already recorded on vid see how crazy you are

Look up ali vs joe its the 2nd video down on tube you will see all I said is true which no words can change you will see the people Joe fought and how the real joe fought and you will see how ali fought and the people he fought
side by side

And anybody with good vision can see the 70s dudes moved way better and had more variety in their styles and more advanced movement and wasnt stiff or slow which all of these things were missing in the Joe era and they were stiff and slow

So try talking those dumb quotes that means nothing to me to somebody who care about words you crazy idiot I care about visuals only

Go in the esb and see how on mutiple pages they wont prove me wrong by video the same as on this site as jab ask silence ask anybody else you can find you wont find anybody proving what I say wrong with video cause they can't it doesn't exist

Looks like you tried to troll the wrong person find another like i told you to try it with

People in the sport
Experts say
Yea and those same people in the sport are liars you idiot

Look up wlad vs joe and look at their expressions when they lied saying joe would beat wlad they all are laughing or not confident picking him which they shouldn't have nobody should had and aren't even wanting to say it they only said it cause they didn't want people in the comments and people in the gym to say how their disrespecting a legend
looks like your people in boxer words were full of it just like you

I brokedown wlad compared to bill and jersey and I got some dumb response back days ago cause it was nothing they could prove wrong see how you talked to the wrong person try that crazy stuff with somebody else

Unless you can do with others I destroyed on esb and tube by showing video to prove me wrong your words and anybody else's doesn't mean anything it didn't last year
it didnt before I ever posted here or any other page and it never will matter

People were saying joe was outdated stiff years ago before I even knew of forums what makes you think some dumb words mean anything over actually video evidence proving you and other crazy idiots who like to act blind mean to us who can see and who aren't crazy

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People in the sport don't argue with idiots outside of it. Stay in your lane.

Bill he moves good he punches while moving forward his tech is good but this isn't sloopy or is his tech bad cause im talking looking back at his era only
he was fast and good with combos from angles
at times when he wanted to be patient he could be and counter good

Jersey the best mover of the whole era flashy could pick you apart from range
great head movement
Was able to confuse his victims cause of the flashy head movement
great counter puncher when he wanted to show off combined with his combos with speed

klit doesn't move flashy like jers moves real slow compared to both but has a big reach
isn't as active as those 2 seems like that would be a flaw yea that can be seen as that but looking at it this way made him more dangerous

His low activeness allowed him to read good
he was a picker i would compare his patience that of a young Ali but even more patient cause wlad was slower he needed to be more patient cause his speed was slow but great aiming which is hard to be at that type of speed

often at times waited for his person to punch then intercepted their punches
able to keep a person at range with his hard jabs
defense agian not as active as jers and bill on the move but kept 1 arm up while punching with the other smoothly

both jers and still being active more then wlad their punch tech still wasnt as smooth and both most the time were more wild compared

see how this is everything on video no words can change how these fighters fought no fighter so what was your point agian saying what some words mean you crazy person

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I just got finished reading a RING MAGAZINE article from a few years in degust, for several different reasons. One being how ring magazine and many boxing fans/journalist/critiques, disregard the EYE TEST.

For example, this particular had Jack Dempsey as the 5th greatest heavyweight of all time . Dempsey in his prime was 190 pounds, had no skill (neither did his opponents) and would get CRUSHED by an average amateur middleweight of today?

I recall one idiot (FROM THIS MESSAGE BOARD) saying how fighters were so great back then "because they fought 30-40 rounds". The reason they were able to fight all those rounds was because they didn't do anything but circle each other and hold. If you fight 30 rounds in a Boxing match that means your not doing anything.

Logic gets thrown out the window when it comes to old primitive boxers.

Will people ever stop overrating old fighters from the past?

I agree on some levels, Dempsey would get destroyed by Jake/Logan Paul

Now the guys like Robinson, Pep ---> those guys would be just as good now as then.

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I agree on some levels, Dempsey would get destroyed by Jake/Logan Paul

Now the guys like Robinson, Pep ---> those guys would be just as good now as then.

No they wouldn't stop trolling