Years ago Thurman woulda beaten Spence and Bud

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  • SweetPbfAli
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    #11
    Originally posted by pasawayako
    Even now i favor thurman over spence or crawford and thurman is a much more battle tested fighter.
    Or he's been in one too many wars along with injuries and inactivity, he's past his best.

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      #12
      I see what OP says. Years ago Thurman beat Porter much better than Spence did before accident.

      Prime Thurman would be very tough for Spence and Crawford.

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      • pasawayako
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        #13
        Originally posted by SweetPbfAli
        Or he's been in one too many wars along with injuries and inactivity, he's past his best.
        Thurman isn't past his best he is still the same fighter and he has more experience now and probably more better than 5 years ago.

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          #14
          Originally posted by pasawayako
          Even now i favor thurman over spence or crawford and thurman is a much more battle tested fighter.
          Thurman just list to a 40 year old that faded in the 2nd half of the fight. I have to keep reminding all of you that. And let’s not forget he was out on his feet against Lopez.

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            #15
            Originally posted by buddyr
            Thurman just list to a 40 year old that faded in the 2nd half of the fight. I have to keep reminding all of you that. And let’s not forget he was out on his feet against Lopez.
            Spence didn`t look great in last 4 rounds against Danny either.

            Spence -Thurman can be interesting if Thurman comes in good shape.

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              #16
              Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
              I see what OP says. Years ago Thurman beat Porter much better than Spence did before accident.

              Prime Thurman would be very tough for Spence and Crawford.
              No. Porter was hurting Thurman and backing him up a lot and the fight could have gone either way. Against Spence , Porter clearly lost the last 3 rounds(plus the knockdown). As I have explained, for Porter to have been “robbed” , you would need a scorecard of him up 7-2 or 8-1 heading into the 10th. Anything else is impossible mathematically since he lost the last 3 WITH a knockdown. So no, he wasn’t robbed.

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                #17
                Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                Spence didn`t look great in last 4 rounds against Danny either.

                Spence -Thurman can be interesting if Thurman comes in good shape.
                Garcia isn’t a 40 year old WW.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by pasawayako
                  Even now i favor thurman over spence or crawford and thurman is a much more battle tested fighter.
                  Same. He's the same fighter years ago and I could argue, he's even better.

                  He threw almost one thousand punches against Lopez and even got a knockdown. He lost only two bad rounds in that fight. He trained at LA fitness for that fight with a 22 month layoff.

                  Thurman actually did better against a mobile Pacman than he did against flatfooted Danny.

                  Total punch stats showed Thurman threw 571 punches against Pac and landed 210 of them. Thurman threw 570 punches against Danny and only landed 147.

                  Thurman's accuracy has improved tremendously especially considering Pac's head movement and footwork which he had to take into account when landing his punches.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by bigtyivier2k2
                    5 years ago he wouldve been number 1 at Welter. However something happened to Thurman in the last 3 years. Injury, really long layoffs between fights took away his prime and he just isnt the same fighter that I thought would take over welter after Pac Floyd era. He seems to have lost his killer instinct and hunger which is unfortunate because he was ‘that guy who got next’ who everyone was ducking at a certain point.
                    He earned his money and lost his drive and hunger.

                    He wasn't the first and won't be the last.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by bigtyivier2k2
                      5 years ago he wouldve been number 1 at Welter. However something happened to Thurman in the last 3 years. Injury, really long layoffs between fights took away his prime and he just isnt the same fighter that I thought would take over welter after Pac Floyd era. He seems to have lost his killer instinct and hunger which is unfortunate because he was ‘that guy who got next’ who everyone was ducking at a certain point.
                      Yes Onetime Thurman was definitely something. I even have a friend who even thinks Mayweather ducked him back then, not sure if I agree or not.

                      The Thurman we have today is definitely not Onetime anymore.

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