Comments Thread For: Arum: Wilder Has No Rights To Third Fury Fight, Claim Will Be Denied

[Squared.Circle]

exactly!! The Fury loss is what happens when you have been protected for so long. He has fought slower plodding or weaker punching fighters his whole career. He lost every round until the knockout to Ortiz in their second fight. Ortiz himself isn't exactly a world beater. Actually,that fight should have been allowed to contiue in m.o.p. But! I still think Fury should give him the third fight. Joshua will be tied up with Usyk until later next year. Who else can Fury fight to generate Wilder numbers. Bob wants to keep the fight from happening just in case Wilder does land that right hand and throws a monkey wrench in the Fury Joshua mega fight. That is a possibility. Without the WBC in hand,Fury Joshua has little to no chance of happening.

BTW,I also believe Wilder should have been allowed to continue in the Fury fight. A lot of Fury's punches were not landing flush when the towel came in.Fury is not a big puncher. Wilder was hurt with a shot to the temple in round two. It isn't that Fury has all this new found power.It was the same type shot Ruiz landed on Joshua that knocked him silly. Wilder's right hand still could have landed at any time. Wilder was the champ and he should be allowed the opportunity to go down punching if that is his hearts desire. Breland screwed that up big time.
Wilder had been concussed since the second round,but still kept fighting through. We know he isn't a great boxer,but he DOES have the heart of a champion. I am not a fan of his.That's just how I see it. I also like Breland a lot more than Wilder. But he made a boo boo.

Yea I agree the fight shouldn't have been stopped, but I do think if it carried on then Wilder would have been laid on his back. He had nothing left in the tank.

I'd have to disagree about Fury's power though, I think he has bundles. The reason most people think he doesn't hit that hard is because he never usually plants his feet. He usually fights off the back foot or up on his toes. Every time I remember Fury planting his feet and traded with an opponent, the opponent gets hurt and busted up.

The only interest I have in a third fight is to take the píss out of Wildette fangirls when Fury embarrasses him, for a third time lol other than that I'd rather see him take on another undefeated, up and coming fighter. Somebody like Yoka, Ajagba or Hrgovic. Maybe even Joyce. I wouldn't even be all that opposed to Ortiz or Parker either. Obviously that's providing AJ doesn't get an exemption and has to fight Usyk. Fury only has three, maybe four fights left in his career. I want to see him take on the guys that will undoubtedly be in the top ten after Fury has gone. Fingers crossed for the AJ showdown though.

[Blackstarr]

Wlad was shot
Del Boy is around only to get beaten
Fury is officially 1-0-1;1 vs Wilder, who, up to fighting Fury, was considered A BUM.

Fury fans are wishy washy and prone to exaggeration when giving him props.

Wlad was shot on the basis of what, knocking out Pulev and outclassing Jennings, both unbeaten?

And if Klitschko was shot, why didn’t Wilder’s team have the balls to make a unification fight that year, and instead have Finkel claiming that Wilder was “still a baby” in that same year that Fury fought him?

https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-not-rushed-klitschko-says-finkel--86714

[BodyBagz]

Wlad was shot on the basis of what, knocking out Pulev and outclassing Jennings, both unbeaten?

And if Klitschko was shot, why didn’t Wilder’s team have the balls to make a unification fight that year, and instead have Finkel claiming that Wilder was “still a baby” in that same year that Fury fought him?

https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-n...-finkel--86714

Pulev AND Jennings
In the same career ?!?!?!?!?

I stand corrected. The Wlad that Fury fought can come back, RIGHT NOW, and dominate.

[Squared.Circle]

Calm down.

Some of you guys make every post regarding Wilder personal.
I am just a boxing fan. Repeat, just a boxing fan. Not a FAN boy of any fighter.
So I am neither PRO nor ANTI Wilder or any other fighter for that matter.
I do not care where they come from or the behind the scenes boxing politics.

If I state who i predict wins in any fight it is NOT because i am PRO that fighter but merely because of what i have seen that fighter do in the ring.

I have been a boxing fan for decades and was reading boxing magazines at an age when most were reading comic books.

I.AM.JUST.A.BOXING.FAN. ....I eat sleep and drink this stuff...everything else is a .........distant second.

Most of you waste tooo much energy being anti Wilder for really no good reason.


You can nitpick and discount his record all you want but the man separates opponents from their senses in a manner I have not seen in years.

Losing a fight is not the end of the world in case you did not know that.

How many times have you bet against Wilder and how many times have you won!!!

Wilder will be back. Doing the same thing he is known for and that is separating people from their senses.

Once again calm down. It is not good for your blood pressure.

From a true boxing fan. Not a fan boy.

I have no problem betting money on Wilder in a 3rd fight against Fury.

Hope that fight happens.

All I was doing was countering your inaccuracies and ill-informed opinions. Quite logically one might add.

He doesn't separate all his opponents from their senses though. His power is seriously overrated. Most of his stoppages are referee stoppages or an opponent giving up because they're so far below average. How many guys has he actually separated from their senses? Four? Maybe five?

It's not nitpicking at his record when he's literally fought two guys that were legitimate top ten fighters (not counting the ones that the WBC manipulated into their own rankings to validate the fights). It's simply pointing out the obvious lol

And I'll tell you how many times I've bet against Wilder...three. Both Fury fights and the second Ortiz fight. He lost both Fury fights (everybody knows he did) and was embarrassingly exposed in the second Ortiz fight. So they're not bad shouts at all. The only reason I haven't bet against him more is, and yes, I'm repeating myself...he simply hasn't fought any other decent opponents.

It's not difficult to look like a killer when you have a padded record. The justification you just gave for your opinion could be applied to Tyrone Brunson; "19–0, 19 first round stoppages!!!! What an absolute killer!!!! Lineal champ!!! Hardest puncher of all time!!!!"...finally faces somebody with a winning record and gets a draw. Goes up against Jones, an ever so slightly above average fighter...and gets embarrassed.

When people sensibly examine his opponents and look at his punching power outside of those YouTube highlight videos, then add that to his boxing ability, it's hard to make a reasonable argument that he beats the majority of fighters ranked inside the top ten of any independent rankings.

[slimPickings]

All I was doing was countering your inaccuracies and ill-informed opinions. Quite logically one might add.

He doesn't separate all his opponents from their senses though. His power is seriously overrated. Most of his stoppages are referee stoppages or an opponent giving up because they're so far below average. How many guys has he actually separated from their senses? Four? Maybe five?

It's not nitpicking at his record when he's literally fought two guys that were legitimate top ten fighters (not counting the ones that the WBC manipulated into their own rankings to validate the fights). It's simply pointing out the obvious lol

And I'll tell you how many times I've bet against Wilder...three. Both Fury fights and the second Ortiz fight. He lost both Fury fights (everybody knows he did) and was embarrassingly exposed in the second Ortiz fight. So they're not bad shouts at all. The only reason I haven't bet against him more is, and yes, I'm repeating myself...he simply hasn't fought any other decent opponents.

It's not difficult to look like a killer when you have a padded record. The justification you just gave for your opinion could be applied to Tyrone Brunson; "19–0, 19 first round stoppages!!!! What an absolute killer!!!! Lineal champ!!! Hardest puncher of all time!!!!"...finally faces somebody with a winning record and gets a draw. Goes up against Jones, an ever so slightly above average fighter...and gets embarrassed.

When people sensibly examine his opponents and look at his punching power outside of those YouTube highlight videos, then add that to his boxing ability, it's hard to make a reasonable argument that he beats the majority of fighters ranked inside the top ten of any independent rankings.

Not sure what is inaccurate and ill informed about some one saying I like this guy over that guy in a fight.

And I am also one of the very few who persist that Fury should have been given the nod in their first fight even though he managed to beat a long 10 second count from a hellacious punch!!

To call Wilder's punching power overrated is just crazy talk. But have at it.

I am a Fury fan and also a Wilder fan even though he is not my cup of tea and was glad he was humbled in the 2nd fight.

At the end of the day a lot of people have lost money betting against him but very few will admit so.

I am hoping the 3rd fight comes off and i will put my money on Wilder.

Once again calling Wilder's punching power overrated is crazy talk.

Now there is something that is ill informed and inaccurate.

[Blackstarr]

Pulev AND Jennings
In the same career ?!?!?!?!?

I stand corrected. The Wlad that Fury fought can come back, RIGHT NOW, and dominate.

What the hell are you talking about “in the same career”? All I’m pointing out is Klitschko looked perfectly fine in the two fights that preceded Fury, so it’s ridiculous to call him shot that fight. Especially when he looked great in the fight against AJ. And props to you - I’m glad you’ve acknowledged saying this was wrong.

[Armchairhero]

its bigger than fury and bob
ESPN and FOX both agreed to move the fight due to pandemic
only people who believe bob and fury is dumb UK fans

Who cares, money talks and the big fight in the spring is all that matters. AJ v Fury 100 odd thousand at Wembley.

If Hearn/sky/BT had any sense they would open it up to itv PPV or have some one off access to get PPV for none sky/BT subscribers, they could and would pull in huge numbers.

[BodyBagz]

What the hell are you talking about “in the same career”? All I’m pointing out is Klitschko looked perfectly fine in the two fights that preceded Fury, so it’s ridiculous to call him shot that fight. Especially when he looked great in the fight against AJ. And props to you - I’m glad you’ve acknowledged saying this was wrong.

Like I said, He beat Pulev AND Jennings ?!?!?

Who would he beat now ?

Edit -
Besides Chisora

[BodyBagz]

The Fury vs Wlad was more of a staring contest than an actual fight.

Most boring title fight in recent memory.

[501_Boy]

Hopefully the claim is denied. Theres no need for a 3rd fight after the bs draw in the 1st and a dominant, soul snatching @ss whippin in the rematch. The levels between the 2 fighters was exposed in both those fights. If Wilder wants a 3rd fight, he NEEDS to earn it this time. I still think he can make some waves in the division but his b!tching, complaining, conspiracy theories and costume excuses sounds more like its coming from a wwe wrestler than an ex heavyweight champion boxer. Oh wait, Mitch Green comes to mind!

That’s not how it works, respectfully.