Joe Joyce isn't great - he just outsmarted a novice

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Read this thread: https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=815514

Note the names slagging him off and scroll through all the posts on here since Saturday. You'd see a lot of names calling him a bum on that thread saying he beats champions now and he has a world class jab. LMAO.

First things first I asked you to do your own homework not me do it for you.

Second thing second "beating champions" and "having a world class jab" does not make you an ATG in ANY CONTEXT.

Like come on man. A small child has more intelligence than what you just displayed and that's embarassing.

If you were to rank Joyce in a top 10 HW list would he make the list?

You're just being a legit hater and thats coming from a guy looking from the outside.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Bro there's a lot of Brits saying that idiotic stuff

And the British speak for everyone then huh?

[nino brown21]

Big Joe needs to get it while the gettings still good. We'll see where he's at when he fights usyk or a top 10 . though he's slow , hes got a good engine and throws combinations well .

[JakeTheBoxer]

He is not ATG; but he is a fair contender.

[BangEM]

First things first I asked you to do your own homework not me do it for you.

Second thing second "beating champions" and "having a world class jab" does not make you an ATG in ANY CONTEXT.

Like come on man. A small child has more intelligence than what you just displayed and that's embarassing.

If you were to rank Joyce in a top 10 HW list would he make the list?

You're just being a legit hater and thats coming from a guy looking from the outside.

Stop being a turkey.

When you have threads like the one below insinuating that Joyce is a better version of Wlad who's an ATG - doesn't that mean they think he's an ATG?

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=861408

^^^It's just common sense.

And you also have threads saying he beats legit champions that are borderline HoFers and on the path to ATG status. You're not a kid and I don't have to explain everything to you.

Joyce is a decent contender but he can't beat anyone in my top-5. I'd have him between 8-10 max.

And why would I be a hater when I picked him to spark Dubois? The guy just doesn't have what it takes and he didn't even do anything against Dubois - he just used his sloppy but effective jab (against a novice who doesn't know how to slip or counter a jab). However, that doesn't mean he's better than he's. He's slow as ***** and always open to be hit...a brutal KO waiting to happen.

I believe you know a bit about boxing. So how would you rank Joyce's jab on a scale of 1-10 (just to test if you're as smart as you think you're).?

[daggum]

joyce has a better resume than wilder so he has to be great

[sammy_browne]

True but he might walk through Uysk for that WBO Title

Funny how everyone was calling Joyce a bum but after beating Dubois, the same people think he's an ATG. I picked Joyce to win by KO because I know Dubois has nothing apart from his jab...once you take that away he's pretty much useless. Hence I've been saying he needs at least 2 more yrs before mixing with the big boys. As for Joyce: he's still the same slow cyborg - nothing has changed.

Joyce doesn't have a great jab - he just met a novice who couldn't counter/slip his jab and punish him. The fact that he kept leaning into his jab and Dubois couldn't punish him for that - is very telling. He has had the same average jab throughout his career and jab doesn't become great overnight. Dubois just made him look better than he's. And his chin is very good but definitely not the best in the division. Ruiz has the best chin and Rivas also has a better chin. Joyce was wobbled against Bryant Jennings by a short left hook and Jennings isn't known for his power.

Stop the madness. The man is still the same slow robot that's open to be hit and a brutal KO waiting to happen.

[REDEEMER]

Funny how everyone was calling Joyce a bum but after beating Dubois, the same people think he's an ATG. I picked Joyce to win by KO because I know Dubois has nothing apart from his jab...once you take that away he's pretty much useless. Hence I've been saying he needs at least 2 more yrs before mixing with the big boys. As for Joyce: he's still the same slow cyborg - nothing has changed.

Joyce doesn't have a great jab - he just met a novice who couldn't counter/slip his jab and punish him. The fact that he kept leaning into his jab and Dubois couldn't punish him for that - is very telling. He has had the same average jab throughout his career and jab doesn't become great overnight. Dubois just made him look better than he's. And his chin is very good but definitely not the best in the division. Ruiz has the best chin and Rivas also has a better chin. Joyce was wobbled against Bryant Jennings by a short left hook and Jennings isn't known for his power.

Stop the madness. The man is still the same slow robot that's open to be hit and a brutal KO waiting to happen.

Stylistically he is Joshuas most dangerous opponent and did hundreds of rounds with him and will outsize A.J . I would avoid threads like this because if A.J can get by Juggernaut he should have easy sailing until Hrgovic.

[REDEEMER]

joyce has a better resume than wilder so he has to be great

Joyce win over DDD is better then Ortiz win . Ortiz wouldn’t have nullified DDD like Joyce did and set an insane pace . Joyce towers over Ortiz and DDD towers over Ortiz ,totally different circumstances.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Stop being a turkey.

When you have threads like the one below insinuating that Joyce is a better version of Wlad who's an ATG - doesn't that mean they think he's an ATG?

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=861408

^^^It's just common sense.

And you also have threads saying he beats legit champions that are borderline HoFers and on the path to ATG status. You're not a kid and I don't have to explain everything to you.

Joyce is a decent contender but he can't beat anyone in my top-5. I'd have him between 8-10 max.

And why would I be a hater when I picked him to spark Dubois? The guy just doesn't have what it takes and he didn't even do anything against Dubois - he just used his sloppy but effective jab (against a novice who doesn't know how to slip or counter a jab). However, that doesn't mean he's better than he's. He's slow as ***** and always open to be hit...a brutal KO waiting to happen.

I believe you know a bit about boxing. So how would you rank Joyce's jab on a scale of 1-10 (just to test if you're as smart as you think you're).?

Let me do you one better than answering your ****** questions that you already have preloaded answers to.

Are you so ****** and unaware as an individual where one person makes a ridiculous claim and it shapes your entire world view?

Like for real. I asked you to do your homework and all you've done is whine and complain and shown me nothing while asking me to do all the work for you.

Oh no. One guy made a bull**** thread claiming something YOU KNOW IS NOT TRUE but now everyone must believe it.

Is that how the real world works buddy? Some other guy said oh, all dem brits have been saying the same thing that Joyce is so good blah blah blah.

Let me tell ya buddy. The world is a whole lot bigger than one ****ing thread and one little island country.

But nah man. Here you are arguing with me for saying that you're way over your head and hardly anyone believes the **** you think is real.