Protecting a cut or injury is a skill - DDD has a lot to learn.

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  • KingGilgamesh
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    #11
    Meh, its nothing particularly compelling. Dubois had clearly been spoonfed and I have a feeling that dropping Joshua in sparring may have gotten to he (and the media's) heads. People need to understand that sparring is sparring though and, if anything, I'm beginning to lean on being dropped during it as being a good sign rather than a bad one. Its where you ply your craft and get a chance to quit without being seen quitting. It also lets you get a chance to get pummeled with no one seeing. I spar regularly with a world champion muay thai fighter who pressure fights like Joe. The sessions are literally horrific in terms of how much they destroy your confidence. It genuinely seems like Dubois had never really been in with someone who wasn't remotely intimidated by him.

    Hindsight is 20/20 but I always fancied Joyce's chances. He just has a far better experience taking on superior opponents. Dubois has spent too much time fighting Japanese binmen and its come back to haunt him. Against a seasoned pressure fighter like Joyce you need to match him at his bull****, put together combinations and keep moving laterally and up the body work. I saw none of that from Dubois tonight. He's a nice guy but I've noticed the guy has ****ing no IQ, either boxing or kinda in general. He needs to go on a journey of self actualisation because I dont think he really knows why he's boxing.

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    • DaNeutral.
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      #12
      He had power and speed but its become clear that if he can't impose his will and control over his opponent he can't adjust himself or defend himself.

      He looked green, he looked like he has got used to putting his opposition in to some sort of survival mode and isn't used to fighting somebody who can give as good as he gets.

      I think he's a good fighter but I'm a hit disappointed in his lack of self preserve and defence smarts.

      But then I thought Joyce fought very well. Slow slow hands but accurate, good work rate and a great nasty jab.

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      • W1LL
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        #13
        Originally posted by Vinnykin
        Loads at ringside had DDD up at the time of the stoppage......... I also believe DDD won his round much more clearly than Joyce.

        Joyce ate a lot of power shots man.... lets be real. BT sport coverage gave every close round to Joyce and still had DDD up as he was unloading on Joyce and catching him in those rounds.

        How Joyce walked out of that ring looking unbruised I just don't know?

        I hope someone makes a compilation video of Joyce getting his head snapped back and eating shots........ he's resilient as ***** honestly
        Seems to me you don't know what you were watching pal. Joyce was clearly outlanding and outscoring Doobwah round after round. Doobwah's head was getting snapped back a lot more than Joyce's. Any highlights are going to show DDD getting his head jabbed off. Not only do you not know you Irish history, but appears you don't know much about Boxing either... too much Irn Bru for you laddy, try a few glasses of water next time.

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        • Vinnykin
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          #14
          Originally posted by DaNeutral.
          He had power and speed but its become clear that if he can't impose his will and control over his opponent he can't adjust himself or defend himself.

          He looked green, he looked like he has got used to putting his opposition in to some sort of survival mode and isn't used to fighting somebody who can give as good as he gets.

          I think he's a good fighter but I'm a hit disappointed in his lack of self preserve and defence smarts.

          But then I thought Joyce fought very well. Slow slow hands but accurate, good work rate and a great nasty jab.
          He did try for 80% of the fight......... can't say he didn't try as the fight was pretty even on a round-by-round scoring criteria, DDD actually winning his rounds more convincingly.

          Your sentiment is right though...... Joyce ate, slipped his punches and kept coming...... the injury and fatigue made him go "NO MAS!"

          I think he can come back though but I'm not sure you can teach him ring IQ at this point.

          No traps, no counter-punching, no taking a breather or adapting........ he needs to go back and fight some British and and then European for a while.

          Maybe the fight does wonders for him....... Joshua looks to have dealt with defeat at the top level and moved on....... there is no reason why DDD can't go onto being a terrific and fearsome boxer.

          He was disheartened by his power shots not moving Joyce, his bust eye&nose, fatigue etc

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          • Vinnykin
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            #15
            Originally posted by W1LL
            Seems to me you don't know what you were watching pal. Joyce was clearly outlanding and outscoring Doobwah round after round. Doobwah's head was getting snapped back a lot more than Joyce's. Any highlights are going to show DDD getting his head jabbed off. Not only do you not know you Irish history, but appears you don't know much about Boxing either... too much Irn Bru for you laddy, try a few glasses of water next time.
            Were Carl Frampton and David Haye not knowing what they were watching.... LIVE?

            Get a grip.

            You were scoring the jab and I was also scoring DDD's jab and the times he caught Joyce MASSIVELY and forced him back and then unloaded more power shots on him..... clean.

            Been watching boxing all my life, I'm only giving my personal opinion and they are shared by experts and pro's.

            You are not the arbiter of judging boxing my man...... the fact you think you think you are is laughable.

            How about we talk boxing without the insults......... or will I just stick you on ignore with the rest of the idiots?

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