Protecting a cut or injury is a skill - DDD has a lot to learn.

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  • Vinnykin
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    Protecting a cut or injury is a skill - DDD has a lot to learn.

    We've seen many top fighters in tough fights and cut or injured and they seem to adapt and protect the injury..... when they are top fighters.

    DDD walked onto a heavy jab which stopped him...... his angle and position was all wrong, and he was trying to win an orthodox jab-game he'd been losing the whole fight while fighting with only his right eye!!??

    DDD needed to get in close and trade, or keep the angle so he was trying to land with his right-peripheral........ what he was doing stooping down low and trying to over-reach on the left jab is beyond me.

    Ring IQ was not there....... I thought DDD should have stepped back and tried to counter Joyce at times but he was trying to jab off the front-foot.

    Thoughts?

    I honestly thought DDD had the power and speed to take Joyce but I did not account for the lateral movement, Joyce's chin, ability to slip punches etc etc etc

    Great fight though!
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    #2
    bro DDD was shaking in the 2nd round didn't you see it??

    the eye was an excuse.. the guy was shook

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    • Ray*
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      #3
      Zero ring IQ, your left eye is close and what do you do? Jumped into a left jab again. Then instead of buying time, he took a knee to be counted out. He should have buy a bit of time, hold after the restart, and get his corner to pull him out. For him to say no mas might hurt him in his future.

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      • deathofaclown
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        #4
        Yeah, I made multiple posts on here saying Joyce had better feet than people realise and it will be a factor in this fight and, his feet and jab were a big problem for the DD who is a big static target for a jab like that.

        It’s not really good to call fighters quitters but so many fighters have had worse injuries than that and refused to go down and accept being counted out like that.

        So whether protecting an injury is a skill or not, you can only protect an injury if you’ve got the bottle to fight on with the injury ...and he didn’t.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Ray*
          Zero ring IQ, your left eye is close and what do you do? Jumped into a left jab again. Then instead of buying time, he took a knee to be counted out. He should have buy a bit of time, hold after the restart, and get his corner to pull him out. For him to say no mas might hurt him in his future.
          Yeah...... there's always the chance you can step up and start swinging and go out on your shield.

          That has hurt him as the highlight of him taking a knee for the 10 count will always be there in peoples minds, other fighters calling it out etc

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            #6
            Originally posted by deathofaclown
            Yeah, I made multiple posts on here saying Joyce had better feet than people realise and it will be a factor in this fight and, his feet and jab were a big problem for the DD who is a big static target for a jab like that.

            It’s not really good to call fighters quitters but so many fighters have had worse injuries than that and refused to go down and accept being counted out like that.

            So whether protecting an injury is a skill or not, you can only protect an injury if you’ve got the bottle to fight on with the injury ...and he didn’t.
            Good on you as I thought the fact Joyce was upright and DDD tended to stoop low would favour DDD for the right-hand counter....... it actually favoured Joyce walking down an even smaller guy bending his knees and just throwing loads of jabs lol........ busted DDD up good within 3 rounds.

            Have to credit Joyce's slipping, lateral movement and chin for that though....... most HW's would have been KO'd by DDD tonight make no mistake.

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            • deathofaclown
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              Originally posted by Vinnykin
              Good on you as I thought the fact Joyce was upright and DDD tended to stoop low would favour DDD for the right-hand counter....... it actually favoured Joyce walking down an even smaller guy bending his knees and just throwing loads of jabs lol........ busted DDD up good within 3 rounds.

              Have to credit Joyce's slipping, lateral movement and chin for that though....... most HW's would have been KO'd by DDD tonight make no mistake.
              Joyce has a great chin but I guess it would be fair to question if Dubois does have great power

              I mean it’s not like he’s stopped good names or anything.

              He can obviously **** but most decent punches would’ve stopped the fighters that he did.

              I guess we would need to see him in more fights with good opponents before we can say he has excellent power or just solid power

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                Daniel Dubois' behaviour from the opening round was very odd. Face marked up quickly and was obvious he didn't know what to do when shipping punches instead of dishing them out. Literally looked shellshocked in there. Joe Joyce systematically broke him down. Dubois was gassing and was starting to take more punishment into the championship rounds. Would put this on a par with David Price vs. Tony Thompson. DDD looks great when steamrolling journeymen. The scorecards show that the fix was in in Dubois' favour too, one judge had him 8 points up!

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by deathofaclown
                  Joyce has a great chin but I guess it would be fair to question if Dubois does have great power

                  I mean it’s not like he’s stopped good names or anything.

                  He can obviously **** but most decent punches would’ve stopped the fighters that he did.

                  I guess we would need to see him in more fights with good opponents before we can say he has excellent power or just solid power
                  He has power, that much is obvious.......... whether he times or uses correctly is the question.

                  Being fair to the young laddy............ he landed some punches on Joyce that I honestly believe waste most HW's.

                  Second round he caught him with multiple power shots and I thought "here we go" DDD was getting a stoppage........ but Joyce rode that one, slipped the next one.

                  Disheartened DDD.

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                  • Vinnykin
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by W1LL
                    Daniel Dubois' behaviour from the opening round was very odd. Face marked up quickly and was obvious he didn't know what to do when shipping punches instead of dishing them out. Literally looked shellshocked in there. Joe Joyce systematically broke him down. Dubois was gassing and was starting to take more punishment into the championship rounds. Would put this on a par with David Price vs. Tony Thompson. DDD looks great when steamrolling journeymen. The scorecards show that the fix was in in Dubois' favour too, one judge had him 8 points up!
                    Loads at ringside had DDD up at the time of the stoppage......... I also believe DDD won his round much more clearly than Joyce.

                    Joyce ate a lot of power shots man.... lets be real. BT sport coverage gave every close round to Joyce and still had DDD up as he was unloading on Joyce and catching him in those rounds.

                    How Joyce walked out of that ring looking unbruised I just don't know?

                    I hope someone makes a compilation video of Joyce getting his head snapped back and eating shots........ he's resilient as ***** honestly

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