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Yeah, Lennox is a top 5 ATG heavy to me.
The American in me never liked him in his day, but now I respect the hell out of him because he keeps it real, and looking back, he always kind of did.
That's why the AJ/Hearn nuthuggers can't stand him.
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Originally posted by Inspired View Postmike tyson was heavily coked up, kept doing prison time and wasn't himself
holyfield was a steroid using blown up cruiserweight
overrated...and an overrated era.
But the Lennox era comment is also way off. That was the very best and deepest era in history. All the other eras are nothing but propaganda like it always is. A lot of them didn't even have any good fighters around they were that bad. Ali's era was top heavy with guys who barely had any talent. And have weak resumes to show for it. The rest of the division was filled with bums.
Lewis has by far the greatest resume in the greatest era in Heavyweight history. No one tops him for me or comes close. He's the greatest Heavy in history. He's the most all round talent the division has ever seen. Head to head and best of 3, Lewis beats every single Heavy in history.
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Originally posted by Get em up View PostWhen Lweis was fighting I always hoped he'd get beat I never got on the Lewis train but after I aged a little I can see where he took over the division. I have to give due credit. The dude had skills among other things.
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Originally posted by masterpatric09 View Postand That fight was prematurely stopped.He beat you the crap out of you.
Vitali was a whole lot more than the quitting reputation he had by the Americans. But he was dominating Byrd before an injury came about that wasn't even inflicted by Byrd. But he pulled out. He shouldn't have. He should have found a way with one arm just to get through it and beat Bryd. But hey, he made his decision. He had a point to prove when he fought Lewis and Lewis didn't expect it. But after attempting to box and failing because he didn't have it any more, he went to war and fought and grabbed that victory by the scruff of the neck and stopped him. If it wasn't for those cuts to Vitali's face and mouth, Lewis would have stopped him in the next couple of rounds as Lennox was now beating the shlt out of him while he was holding on for dear life at the end.
But they'd be no rematch. Lewis knew he couldn't do it again because he was there for the wrong reasons and got a shock. But pride got in the way, which is understandable. I'm just glad his mum had a word with him and told him to be honest with himself. Which he was. So he retired. It was the right thing to do. Pride has kept many fighters in there too long for the wrong reasons and it never works out. No matter how many times it happens to a fighter, others don't take notice and they repeat the ******ity all over again. Lennox didn't. That was the right call to make.
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Originally posted by Andre_parker1 View PostHe knew what would've happen if he had rematched vitali,he chose to keep his legacy intact...smart man
At least Lennox got in there and beat Vitali. Can't say the same for Vitali though the way he put Chisora in front of Haye before he would be willing to fight him. When Haye wreaked him and did his post fight interview, he said Vitali wouldn't fight him. He said he'd fight a bum instead and walk away. That's exactly what happened.
Why didn't Vitali even try and beat a former Cruiserweight? Why put a roadblock in there and still duck the fight after he'd beaten the roadblock? Do to Haye what Lennox did to him? He didn't even dare.
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Originally posted by Oregonian View Post—————-
What about Haseem Rahman and Oliver McCall? Do you think they would have dominated this era?
“Beat every man he ever fought”!! Floyd, Calzaghe, Ward, all beat every man they ever fought in the truest sense.
When you say it that way, one would think Lewis retired undefeated. He got knocked out by two journeymen.
Floyd ducked for most of his career and cherry picked like a woman.
Ward lost the Kovalev fights. The first one on points even after he had to clinch and hit without the crooked ref taking any points or stopping him from doing so after Kovalev started busting him up and dropping him. Ward knew what was coming if he didn't cheat for most of the fight after getting up. He still lost though and got a robbery.
The rematch had Kovalev winning 5-2 on anyones scorecard if they know how to score a fight properly. But in the 8th, Ward rocked Kovalev, then proceeded to whack him the balls repeatedly until another crooked ref stopped the fight unfairly and let Ward get away with more cheating and corruption.
So no, neither are like Lewis in any way. It's actually offensive to even suggest that level of nonsense. Lewis was a real fighter from start to finish in a way they most certainly weren't.
And they weren't journeymen either. Rahman had good victories outside of the Lewis win. Many great fighters have lost to good world class fighters or less. McCall was decent, he didn't have any good wins going in, but he wasn't a journeyman. Same thing with Randy Turpin going into the Robinson fight. He was a decent fighter without any good wins going in. But would you say Robinson lost to a journeyman? Of course you wouldn't. That would be ******. Same thing with McCall and Lewis.
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Originally posted by The D3vil View PostYeah, Lennox is a top 5 ATG heavy to me.
The American in me never liked him in his day, but now I respect the hell out of him because he keeps it real, and looking back, he always kind of did.
That's why the AJ/Hearn nuthuggers can't stand him.
It was bullshlt. Anybody who disagrees, is as deluded as Wilder himself. And Lennox is my favourite fighter in history before you call me biased or some other nonsense.
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