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  • shaheed1972
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    #81
    Originally posted by Dip_Slide
    How come none of the other promoters is stepping up and making Crawford offers? This whole fiasco really hurts Crawford if he feels like he has to have a promoter. They all think he's desperate now and will take advantage of that during negotiations. He should do a 1 fight deal with Haymon for Errol Spence and then go from there, granted Errol Spence gets past Danny Garcia without any controversy that calls for a rematch.
    They can't make offers because he's under contract. However Eddie has already said if Bud is available he'd make him an offer. However, I think Bud will "self promote" under the advisement of Al Haymon. That seems to be the general consensus.

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      #82
      Originally posted by shaheed1972
      They can't make offers because he's under contract. However Eddie has already said if Bud is available he'd make him an offer. However, I think Bud will "self promote" under the advisement of Al Haymon. That seems to be the general consensus.
      No he won't. Al Haymon will NOT tolerate BoMac's BS.

      So unless Crawford wants to tell BoMac he's no longer part of negotiations, Crawford will not go to PBC.

      I said it before, he might as well go to Don King at this point.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Roadblock
        Behind closed doors, hell Bob you started the trash in public.
        No, he did not. BoMac did.

        Or did you forget him running to Twitter about the Keef alleged $10 million?

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        • BlackR0bbb
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          #84
          Being that COVID makes the Spence and Manny fights impossible right now, Crawford should fight Porter next. Sitting idol until his contract expires won't help him much because he will be 34 by that time.

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            #85
            Originally posted by shaheed1972
            They can't make offers because he's under contract. However Eddie has already said if Bud is available he'd make him an offer. However, I think Bud will "self promote" under the advisement of Al Haymon. That seems to be the general consensus.
            Because any promoter who does that will be sued for tampering. Crawford is still presently under contract to TR. That should be obvious to you.

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            • aztec_warriors
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              #86
              60-40 split

              40-40 split... winner takes 20. prizefighting

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                #87
                Arum knew he would leave so he throwing dirt to save face and ruin his image for the next promoter

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by aztec_warriors
                  40-40 split... winner takes 20. prizefighting
                  This is always mentioned yet never happens. Save your time expecting this.

                  Originally posted by BlackR0bbb
                  Being that COVID makes the Spence and Manny fights impossible right now, Crawford should fight Porter next. Sitting idol until his contract expires won't help him much because he will be 34 by that time.
                  I don't buy that. Spence is fighting DSG in front of fans and so will Canelo a few weeks later. Bob can talk about the closed circuit and all that, but they can still get a great gate even during these times. And really his math is not adding up here at all. He said you have to pay both fighters like 10M and they can't provide that in a pandemic. He also said 1/3 of the buys for Wilder vs Fury came on ESPN+ and that cable distributors only take 40% now. I've read for any buys through Fox Sports or ESPN+, they go to the promotion at a far higher rate so let's say they take home 80% while giving ESPN+ and Fox Sports 20% distribution rate. This was something Mannix mentioned on one of his podcasts btw.

                  Okay, so let's take a look at this. Let's say there are 400,000 buys and again, 1/3 come from ESPN+/Fox Sports.

                  280,000 * 75 = $21,000,000 * 60% = 12,600,000
                  120,000 * 75 = $9,000,000 * 80 = $7,200,000

                  Then let's say they put the fight at Cowboys stadium and again hold around 15-17k. They can increase the prices and easily obtain a 3M gate. Then from sponsors plus international money, they can bring in another 4-5M.

                  That alone brings in around 27M or so. That would be enough to give both fighters 10M plus all the promotional expenses and paying the undercard fighters.

                  Bob is not making sense here and he's all over the place.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Doubledagger
                    True, but if Crawford's contract is running out next October, the fight can possibly be made and scheduled for December with Crawford a free agent or signing with PBC right after
                    Oh yea for sure. If Bud signs with anyone else outside of top rank you will see him in big fights. Period.

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                    • Punch on Tap
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by KTFOKING
                      This is always mentioned yet never happens. Save your time expecting this.



                      I don't buy that. Spence is fighting DSG in front of fans and so will Canelo a few weeks later. Bob can talk about the closed circuit and all that, but they can still get a great gate even during these times. And really his math is not adding up here at all. He said you have to pay both fighters like 10M and they can't provide that in a pandemic. He also said 1/3 of the buys for Wilder vs Fury came on ESPN+ and that cable distributors only take 40% now. I've read for any buys through Fox Sports or ESPN+, they go to the promotion at a far higher rate so let's say they take home 80% while giving ESPN+ and Fox Sports 20% distribution rate. This was something Mannix mentioned on one of his podcasts btw.

                      Okay, so let's take a look at this. Let's say there are 400,000 buys and again, 1/3 come from ESPN+/Fox Sports.

                      280,000 * 75 = $21,000,000 * 60% = 12,600,000
                      120,000 * 75 = $9,000,000 * 80 = $7,200,000

                      Then let's say they put the fight at Cowboys stadium and again hold around 15-17k. They can increase the prices and easily obtain a 3M gate. Then from sponsors plus international money, they can bring in another 4-5M.

                      That alone brings in around 27M or so. That would be enough to give both fighters 10M plus all the promotional expenses and paying the undercard fighters.

                      Bob is not making sense here and he's all over the place.
                      Damn you put in work with that post! I agree, Bob isn’t making an ounce of sense. He failed to market the man and is the primary reason for Buds shortcomings in his rise to the top. Bud on any other platform would THE GUY.

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