Q: why is OLD Floyd vs. Logan Paul a cherrypick, but Crawford/Brook was not?

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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    Q: why is OLD Floyd vs. Logan Paul a cherrypick, but Crawford/Brook was not?

    Serious.

    Floyd is now 43.

    I know how I felt in my teens as an athlete in school vs. my later years when I was still athletic but not nearly as much. It's a significant shift.

    Floyd works out still, but nowhere near as beast mode as he used to.

    The guy is essentially retired - and making obscene money off of the brand he built over the years.

    He's already won the titles he wanted, he's already beaten almost 30 world champions. He's done everything he ever wanted. Now he can just collect checks until it no longer matters.




    So my question is this.

    Logan Paul IS a pro boxer, and a decent one at that. He's had two fights, one a draw and one a loss by (obvious) robbery, both with KSI. He actually can sell fights and has a strong social media following.


    Floyd at advanced age fighting him is actually a step UP from fighting McGregor, because McGregor had never boxed as a pro. It's just that Dana and UFC fans were bamboozled. It happens.

    If Floyd at 43 called out Sugar Ray Leonard in his 50's, even that's not a cherry pick, because Leonard was so highly skilled it basically balances out.

    The only other fight that even makes anywhere near sense is MAYBE...MAYBE Floyd vs. Cory Spinks. But even that's a stretch.

    People on here demanding Floyd fight a current prime fighter. What for? He doesn't need to prove anything to them OR you. He's already proven it. They need to fight each other (which means accepting B-Side money instead of demanding 60% unearned).


    So when you have a Terence Crawford who NSB and ESPN call #1P4P, best fighter in the world, ultra skilled, nobody can beat him, etc...and you match him with a version of Kell Brook that had both eye sockets broken by Golovkin and Spence respectively and against Zerafa had already looked a shell of his former self...how is that not a cherry pick?


    I'm seriously wanting to know that answer.
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    paul logan is not even a pro. he is a joke and a youtuber. compared to brook who has a lot of experience and a natural boxer. brook is the only opponent TC can get right now.. you can easily determine who is fighting a bum between the two.
    Last edited by blowblow; 11-22-2020, 11:59 AM.

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      #3
      Originally posted by blowblow
      paul logan is not even a pro. he is a joke and a youtuber. compared to brook to has a lot of experience and a natural boxer. brook is the only opponent TC can get right now..
      Logan Paul is a LICENSED PRO BOXER.

      I know people don't accept that - but it's the truth.




      And Brook is NOT the only opponent Crawford could have gotten. He COULD have gotten Gary Russell - but he ducked it.

      He COULD have gotten Keef - but BoMac rejected it.

      He always COULD have gotten Porter - but he doesn't want it (Arum's on record saying so).

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      • Thunderstruck
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        The one and only true answer is Mayweather fights Crawford and it shuts up the nut huggers from both camps.You yourself think buds a bum and cherry picks bums and Mayweather doesn’t have to prove himself vs some young elite.Buds according to money nut huggers getting old 33or34 and cherry picking bums so we let them pick each other and quit having to read these threads.

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          Originally posted by Thunderstruck
          The one and only true answer is Mayweather fights Crawford and it shuts up the nut huggers from both camps.You yourself think buds a bum
          First of all, you will NEVER find a post from me where I called Terence Crawford a bum. Ever. Because he's not.

          He's smoke and mirrors, yes.

          He's a liar, yes.

          He's delusional at times, yes.

          But these are all well documented. Regardless, I think he's a decently good fighter; I don't see this world beater that everyone else does, but that's because he refuses to fight anyone that would test whether he is or not so I can know for sure.

          Bum beater, maybe. But he's no bum.

          Second, Mayweather retired the first time in 2017. If he were to call out Crawford they'll say "Floyd waited for Crawford to get old" - "Floyd's ducking Canelo rematch" - "Floyd's ducking Manny rematch" - "Why didn't Floyd fight Spence?"

          I'm not new to the game and I'm not new to NSB.

          Floyd can't win no matter what he does, which is why I support him doing what HE wants to do. Not what others think he should do.

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            Originally posted by revelated
            Serious.

            Floyd is now 43.

            I know how I felt in my teens as an athlete in school vs. my later years when I was still athletic but not nearly as much. It's a significant shift.

            Floyd works out still, but nowhere near as beast mode as he used to.

            The guy is essentially retired - and making obscene money off of the brand he built over the years.

            He's already won the titles he wanted, he's already beaten almost 30 world champions. He's done everything he ever wanted. Now he can just collect checks until it no longer matters.




            So my question is this.

            Logan Paul IS a pro boxer, and a decent one at that. He's had two fights, one a draw and one a loss by (obvious) robbery, both with KSI. He actually can sell fights and has a strong social media following.


            Floyd at advanced age fighting him is actually a step UP from fighting McGregor, because McGregor had never boxed as a pro. It's just that Dana and UFC fans were bamboozled. It happens.

            If Floyd at 43 called out Sugar Ray Leonard in his 50's, even that's not a cherry pick, because Leonard was so highly skilled it basically balances out.

            The only other fight that even makes anywhere near sense is MAYBE...MAYBE Floyd vs. Cory Spinks. But even that's a stretch.

            People on here demanding Floyd fight a current prime fighter. What for? He doesn't need to prove anything to them OR you. He's already proven it. They need to fight each other (which means accepting B-Side money instead of demanding 60% unearned).


            So when you have a Terence Crawford who NSB and ESPN call #1P4P, best fighter in the world, ultra skilled, nobody can beat him, etc...and you match him with a version of Kell Brook that had both eye sockets broken by Golovkin and Spence respectively and against Zerafa had already looked a shell of his former self...how is that not a cherry pick?


            I'm seriously wanting to know that answer.
            Put Logan into a ring in ANY amateur boxing club in any country and I guarantee at least one amateur boxer and will be able to totally bust him up.

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              Logan Paul is 0-1 while Floyd is supposed to be retired. I don’t think it should even be a legit boxing match. Circus matches aren’t cherrypicks cause it’s just exhibition nothing more

              Bud-Brook is a legit boxing match at championship level. Made Brook look like cherrypick though

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              • abracada
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                Floyd Snr would KO Logan. That’s just truth.

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                  Is this fight actually happening ?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by abracada
                    Put Logan into a ring in ANY amateur boxing club in any country and I guarantee at least one amateur boxer and will be able to totally bust him up.
                    Doubt it. Not unless they're his size. Anyone smaller than him has problems getting past the reach. Same as KSI.

                    Remember, KSI was training with the Mayweathers at one point.


                    Originally posted by abracada
                    Floyd Snr would KO Logan. That’s just truth.
                    The same Senior that got pieced by Charlie Zelenoff?


                    Originally posted by Ca$ual Fan
                    Logan Paul is 0-1 while Floyd is supposed to be retired. I don’t think it should even be a legit boxing match. Circus matches aren’t cherrypicks cause it’s just exhibition nothing more

                    Bud-Brook is a legit boxing match at championship level. Made Brook look like cherrypick though
                    How is it legit when Brook hadn't made the weight in years and had a completely damaged face?

                    Crawford's OWN trainer said it wasn't a legit fight.

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