Wardley is a better prospect than Dubois

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  • JakeTheBoxer
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    #11
    Interesting prospect, I have seen him for the first time. He will be followed from now on.

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    • REDEEMER
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      #12
      Wardley makes a lot of amateur mistakes defensively, DDD would find an opening in the very weak defense of Wardley where no one has exploited it yet . I still rate a Gorman over him , Lartey isn’t the measurement of how good a fighter is . We also don’t know what his training camp was with COVID to even know if he was less prepared for the fight .

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      • PRINCEKOOL
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        #13
        Originally posted by REDEEMER
        Wardley makes a lot of amateur mistakes defensively, DDD would find an opening in the very weak defense of Wardley where no one has exploited it yet . I still rate a Gorman over him , Lartey isn’t the measurement of how good a fighter is . We also don’t know what his training camp was with COVID to even know if he was less prepared for the fight .
        Lartey was in far better condition against Dubois, I don't think he has been in that same condition since etc

        I don't really rate Wardley highly, even though he seems to be naturally gifted to some degree.

        Lartey at times does not look like a bad fighter 'I am quite dubious of that knock down against Wardley'.
        Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 11-22-2020, 12:47 PM.

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        • Stuntman Mike
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          #14
          Originally posted by BangEM
          Prime Tyson doesn’t exist and Dubois has a chance of beating 80s Tyson by fight behind his jab. Douglas did just that and destroyed Tyson.

          Tyson is up there with Wilder as a one trick pony as most overrated ever.
          Pretty sure douglas fought a 90s tyson and tyson was declining in his training prior

          Not to mention jet lag snd being dropped in sparring beforehand due to lack of discipline

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            #15
            It’s nice to see a heavyweight that isn’t stiff and robotic

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            • Toffee
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              #16
              Hard to know what to make of Wardley.

              He's a white collar boxer turned pro with no real pedigree. The fight looked suss throughout to me.

              But he looks like a proper sportsman and he does some good things in there. It all looks natural rather than taught.

              Dubois would take him out in a round right now and is younger, so I don't think you can claim he's not the better prospect. I'm fairly sure Dubois will be a heavyweight champion of some kind.

              He'll definitely be one to watch though.

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              • sicko
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                #17
                I've been impressed every time I've seen him so far

                As for being better than Daniel Dubois, we will find out eventually who is better. HUGE test for DDD this coming week vs Joyce!

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                • BangEM
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                  Lartey was in far better condition against Dubois, I don't think he has been in that same condition since etc

                  I don't really rate Wardley highly, even though he seems to be naturally gifted to some degree.

                  Lartey at times does not look like a bad fighter 'I am quite dubious of that knock down against Wardley'.
                  Stop lying. Lartey was in a worse state and jetlag against Dubois. The man arrived in the U.K. the day he fought Dubois and wasn’t cleared by immigration until 2hrs before the fight, yet he wobbled Dubois like 2 or 3 times.

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                  • BangEM
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Stuntman Mike
                    Pretty sure douglas fought a 90s tyson and tyson was declining in his training prior

                    Not to mention jet lag snd being dropped in sparring beforehand due to lack of discipline
                    Aren’t you lot tired of these inane excuses you pull out of your arses for Mike Tyson?

                    You don’t decline in your 20s as a HW boxer, especially if you haven’t taken any punishment. Tyson cruises through the division at that point. He was just a one-trick pony and hypejob that couldn’t adjust in the ring (similar to Wilder). End of.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by 786
                      I agree but you're doing the same thing by disrespecting previous eras. We can pick low points of any fighter in history but it's not really a great argument when we're comparing eras. In fact, it's a terrible argument.

                      Same as those who go off nostalgia and say 'yeah but so and so lost to this bum etc etc..' it proves nothing because we can go back and find a bad loss or a poor performance from a 'golden age' fighter the same way we can look at current fighters and point out their losses/bad performances.

                      Once all is said and done, I think this era will go down as one of the golden ages of the division but we'll have to wait and see if they all fight each other. Some are disrespectful while others (like myself) are waiting to see how it unfolds. The quality and competitiveness is there but I'm not willing to 'crown' it until the fights actually happen.

                      As for the Wilder/Forman comparisons, I see where you're coming from but Foreman was a gold medalist with wins against Norton and Fraiser before his fight with Ali. Wilder was a bronze medalist and his best wins were Stiverne and Ortiz, not exactly the same quality.
                      Not disrespecting the era - I just like pointing out all the lows of the era a lot of idiots on here won’t shut up about due to nostalgia. These guys act as if the boxers in the 90s were perfect and invincible - but they were not.

                      People act like that wasn’t the era when ducking politics started in boxing and like two old men in their 40s weren’t top-10 in that era. Also, one you take you the top-3 in the 90s - the rest weren’t even that schooled. And there’s a reason why it took Lennox Lewis 3rds in total to spark both Golota and Ruddock.

                      As for Wilder and Foreman - I was just comparing how crude the both of them are. However, Foreman was tough unlike Wilder who was made out of glass. Wilder is too fragile.

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