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  • #51
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
    I've always said this.

    How many stars has PBC built up on their own, from the ground up, that have zero connection to GBP?
    If PBC has any real stars, then so does everyone. In fact, low level fighters do better in their country than your "Very best" do at home. And you have many times more people than those countries.

    Which fighters do you think can be called stars?

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Death_Adder View Post
      Good grief, learn some proper English. You sound like a moron.

      Bet you're the type to say "ION" instead of "I don't" .
      Because I didn’t say “were” grammar police came out lmao..... refute what I said on the boxing subject, if you can’t keep moving nobody cares about you correcting grammar errors

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      • #53
        Oscar is hitting the coke again. His logic is completely delusional. It would be like an NBA drafting a player, failing to nurture to him to his max potential, refusing to extend his contact, then claiming they "built" him after he breaks out with another team.

        And I've been called an Oscar "hater", but this guy is just a terrible promoter. Canelo was literally one of the few things keeping Golden Boy afloat and Oscar chased him away.

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        • #54
          By the way, if this is the case....if Oscar is right, why is it that no PBC fighters have jumped ship over to GBP? Seems the only people who have left pbc have gone to Edward Hearn side of the dazn split because Hearn is the one offering more money. I suspect we will see more GBP fighters jumping to Eddie Hearn and matchroom moving the needle more at dazn than GBP. I just don’t see golden boy making it in the long run by just being a california based promotion appealing to no one else by Califas Mexicans without a Mexican star. And we all know Mexican American boxing fans have a weird nationalism where they support Mexican fighters more than Mexican Americans.
          Last edited by Oldskoolg; 11-22-2020, 08:59 PM.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post
            By the way, if this is the case....if Oscar is right, why is it that no PBC fighters have jumped ship over to GBP?
            Because Al Haymon overpaid them thanks to money from a Wall Street slush fund. A fund that shareholders sued because investment in PBC was a violation of the stated terms in the prospectus.

            So one way of looking at this is that Haymon robbed Oscar of his fighters and robbed investors of their money. Shady way to run a business, off the life blood of others...

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            • #56
              Oscar...You just LOST Canelo and you got current fighters flocking to MTK Global and Rick Mirigian! Can't blame Haymon for that! Also have Ryan Garica already unhappy and calling out his own promotion and he is early in his career so WTF are YOU and Eric Gomez doing wrong to run off Canelo and have Ryan Garcia already unhappy with GBP

              Maybe focus on your own F^cking Promotion! Some people just can't looks themselves in the Mirror and admit that they're the problem!


              Last edited by sicko; 11-22-2020, 09:43 PM.

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              • #57
                They don’t have the next wave because they don’t know how to build. So that’s maybe a ship that sails away and they try to do great but they just couldn’t.”

                Tank Davis, Sebastian Fundora, "Boots" Ennis, Brandon Figueroa, Chris Colbert, Stephen Fulton, Xavier Martinez, Eimanatas Stanionis, Erickson Lubin, Brandun Lee, Gary Antuanne Russell, and Vito Mielnicki Jr.! Not bad at all!

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
                  Where did you get the numbers for the Davis/Cruz fight?

                  There's a reason they haven't been officially released. Anything you read on the subject is clear lies and propaganda like the rest of it is.

                  PBC would be happy to release official numbers if they weren't bombing left right and centre like we know they do.
                  Google it. Multiple sources have quoted the same numbers. When was the last time "official numbers" have been released by anybody?

                  200-225 are also not very good numbers, neither were the 120 the Charlos did.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                    They don’t have the next wave because they don’t know how to build. So that’s maybe a ship that sails away and they try to do great but they just couldn’t.”

                    Tank Davis, Sebastian Fundora, "Boots" Ennis, Brandon Figueroa, Chris Colbert, Stephen Fulton, Xavier Martinez, Eimanatas Stanionis, Erickson Lubin, Brandun Lee, Gary Antuanne Russell, and Vito Mielnicki Jr.! Not bad at all!
                    Of all the names here I probably 2 really made the list. Just writing random fighters doesn’t really mean they are been built for stardom

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by FLY TY View Post
                      Google it. Multiple sources have quoted the same numbers. When was the last time "official numbers" have been released by anybody?

                      200-225 are also not very good numbers, neither were the 120 the Charlos did.
                      PBC always used to until their numbers became so horrid they had to hide them.

                      Two fighters who don't have any momentum for over 3 years facing off against each other just comes along and does 200-225 PPV sales? And you believe this bullshlt? At those prices?

                      Haymon uses people to push his propaganda to make PBC look better than it is. No one from his side can come out and lie because he'd get into trouble for it. But those not connected? They'll do his dirty work for him. For payment of course.

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