Spence has more belts, better opponents, and better PPV #'s

[Roadblock]

What are their comparable PPV numbers? Can’t find much info online.

What’s the information that matters in this conversation.

Im guess their best numbers were about Floyd Berto figures 500k or under.

Both guys talk A side etc but I feel they are pretty much about the same level of stature, for either to get many more millions than the other guy doesnt seem justified to me at this time, neither have broken out into the big league thats still being established.

[Robi13]

40/40 and 20 percent for the winner what’s the big deal

[Fists_of_Fury]

None of the PBC fans were saying this about AJ when he held more belts, earned 10x more than Wilder, and fought better opposition. He also packed stadiums with nearly 10x as many fans. Had over thirty product endorsements too. You all thought Wilder deserved 50% or even 40%.

Don't say you all. Wilder was as delusional as Crawford yet you back Crawford in this bullsheeit. The anti-PBC fanboys seem to have as much double standards and hypocrisy as ********.

[Fists_of_Fury]

that wankery... is fine

but Crawford is the best welter

if Errol "precious" Spence is not happy about that... then he knows what to do

that fight should obviously be 50/50... because...

FACT: Spence is not a superstar... or even close... so he should attempt to become one with Crawford

SAME with Crawford

that kinda talk from fighters is fkn lame... even more so from fans

they could simply fight for 50/50... 1) no harm done... 2) problem solved




























this post may not be popular in this thread... but it will be the most accurate

Nothing accurate about your delusional bullsheeit. Whoever brings in more $ deserves more. Only dumbasses seem to not understand this fact.

[GhostofDempsey]

Don't say you all. Wilder was as delusional as Crawford yet you back Crawford in this bullsheeit. The anti-PBC fanboys seem to have as much double standards and hypocrisy as ********.

I was one of the few Crawford fans who criticized him for signing with TR again while all the talent was at PBC. He hinged his career on getting a fight with Manny, he rolled those dice and it didn’t pan out. But PBC is still part of the problem when they freeze out anyone who isn’t signed under them. Having promoters who hold near monopolies on a division is not good for the sport.

Spence and Crawford have earned about the same money. Either of them is a PPV star. They need to stop bickering about who gets 10% more and get this fight signed in 2021 before they are no longer at their best.

[KTFOKING]

What are their comparable PPV numbers? Can’t find much info online.

That’s the information that matters in this conversation.

Crawford vs Postal - ~50,000
Crawford vs Khan - 125-150,000

Spence vs Garcia - 330,000-350,000
Spence vs Porter - 275,000-300,000

Crawford vs Khan gate was around 1.5M. His gate vs Horn was over 900,000 but less than a million.

Spence vs Garcia gate was over 4M, but less than 5M. I posted it here but can't recall off the top of my head.

Spence vs Porter gate was 2.3M.

Spence deserves the bigger share but if Crawford gets with Haymon, they probably get it to 50/50 or close to it.

[Fists_of_Fury]

I was one of the few Crawford fans who criticized him for signing with TR again while all the talent was at PBC. He hinged his career on getting a fight with Manny, he rolled those dice and it didn’t pan out. But PBC is still part of the problem when they freeze out anyone who isn’t signed under them. Having promoters who hold near monopolies on a division is not good for the sport.

Spence and Crawford have earned about the same money. Either of them is a PPV star. They need to stop bickering about who gets 10% more and get this fight signed in 2021 before they are no longer at their best.

When Bob Arum does that same thing it's fine though. When Bob makes people sign to him or give him options just to fight one of his fighters it's fine. Not a peep but when PBC has their fighters fight eachother 1st it's a problem?

Is PBC making Crawford vs (insert faded former champ or bum)? No, so blame Crawford and Arum. Hell you have Crawford clearly pricing himself out! PBC doe.


PBC guys don't use Top Rank fighters to sell their trash fights like Top Rank does using PBC fighters names. Crawford is the one needing a name on his resume. He needs to take what he is owed or short $.

Spence still has name opponents to fight unlike Crawford. I personally would force Crawford to fight Porter, Thurman, Danny, or Pacquiao and prove he's a top welterweight before I gave him a shot. I'm tired of hype jobs getting easy title shots beating bums and faded former champs while others run the gauntlet.

I doubt this fight gets made. I can see Crawford re-signing with Arum for the Top Rank protection program with ESPN exclusivity to duck the top guys until he retires. It will be the same useless cycle: call out PBC guy, fake verbal lowball offers or legit lowball offers, sign to fight a faded former champ, bum or mandatory bum, and the cycle continues...

Hell Arum might build a stadium, fake countdown clocks, etc... again. And the anti-PBC fanboys will eat it up like they always do. They will say Spence is ducking while he fights way better opposition.

[Roadblock]

Nothing accurate about your delusional bullsheeit. Whoever brings in more $ deserves more. Only dumbasses seem to not understand this fact.

Yes but is there a real 60/40 difference , Im sure there is absolute data that the lawyers go off during negotiation.

I think people just side with their guy even if its unreasonable, I dont care who makes how much until its the deal breaker, lets just the say the data comes in at 60/40 well ok but what if its 48/52 what is the 60 ask then.

[GhostofDempsey]

When Bob Arum does that same thing it's fine though. When Bob makes people sign to him or give him options just to fight one of his fighters it's fine. Not a peep but when PBC has their fighters fight eachother 1st it's a problem?

Is PBC making Crawford vs (insert faded former champ or bum)? No, so blame Crawford and Arum. Hell you have Crawford clearly pricing himself out! PBC doe.


PBC guys don't use Top Rank fighters to sell their trash fights like Top Rank does using PBC fighters names. Crawford is the one needing a name on his resume. He needs to take what he is owed or short $.

Spence still has name opponents to fight unlike Crawford. I personally would force Crawford to fight Porter, Thurman, Danny, or Pacquiao and prove he's a top welterweight before I gave him a shot. I'm tired of hype jobs getting easy title shots beating bums and faded former champs while others run the gauntlet.

I doubt this fight gets made. I can see Crawford re-signing with Arum for the Top Rank protection program with ESPN exclusivity to duck the top guys until he retires. It will be the same useless cycle: call out PBC guy, fake verbal lowball offers or legit lowball offers, sign to fight a faded former champ, bum or mandatory bum, and the cycle continues...

Hell Arum might build a stadium, fake countdown clocks, etc... again. And the anti-PBC fanboys will eat it up like they always do. They will say Spence is ducking while he fights way better opposition.

PBC has put on plenty of mismatches and garbage fights. 147 is the only division they can put on decent fights twice per year.

I’m not a fan of promoters or managers, I don’t care if it’s Arum, GBP, PBC, Hearn, or whoever. I just want to see the best fights. Keeping things in-house only favors promoters. I don’t understand this trend of fans rallying behind promoters and networks.

[IronDanHamza]

Crawford vs Postal - ~50,000
Crawford vs Khan - 125-150,000

Spence vs Garcia - 330,000-350,000
Spence vs Porter - 275,000-300,000

Crawford vs Khan gate was around 1.5M. His gate vs Horn was over 900,000 but less than a million.

Spence vs Garcia gate was over 4M, but less than 5M. I posted it here but can't recall off the top of my head.

Spence vs Porter gate was 2.3M.

Spence deserves the bigger share but if Crawford gets with Haymon, they probably get it to 50/50 or close to it.

So Spence is the A Side then.

There’s no argument, the numbers are there clearly and will only get wider after Spence vs Danny which probably does around 300k