Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Crawford Mania, Feud With Arum, More

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When has quackford actually beaten someone genuinely elite let alone bigger than him? Oh yeah thats right his best wins nuthuggers keep harking back to was half a decade ago when Bud was weightbullying at 135. No kovalev types no Jacobs types,no Smith types No Trouts,or Laras,nothing but washed ups & never has beens on his stank resume,this dude Bread is a joke for claiming those wins are top fighters any way comparable to Canelos usual opponents despite Canelos opponents being like 3or4/1 underdogs or even favorites & Crawfords best ww wins were like 12/1 or worse.

No mention by Bread that Charlo already ducked Canelo(& admitted it a yr after) as did Plant,no mention that hes running out of boogieman to justify his hating.

Did you just try to use Kovalev to big up Canelo?

I wouldn't mention that fight if I were you.

1. Short notice, Kovalev just came out of a grueling fight where he almost got stopped by a prospect who doesn't even Spar and had about 15 pro fights and only eight or so amateur fights.

2. Rehydration clause. Canelo not only gave short notice but also put a rehydration clause as well in the contract so that Kovalev couldn't rehydrate the way he normally does..

3. Old and washed up. Kovalev has not been the same since Andre Ward destroyed him in their rematch. He was even knocked out by another bum after the Ward fight and was almost stopped by a prospect who doesn't even spar, smh.

4. Suspected dive. Lol, anyone who watched the fight saw how Kovalev seemed to be going out of his way not to hurt Alvarez. Never seen Kovalev ever throw such pitty pat punches, it was quite frankly ridiculous.


Ps. Canelo also put a rehydration clause in the contract with Jacobs and Jacobs was never elite anyway. Jacobs is of the sane variety of the Postols of the world.

Caneloweight, rehydration clause, blatantly ducking the best available guy and going life and death and arguably losing twice to old man GGG, testing positive for peds, etc.

Canelo is a joke as p4p.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Did you just try to use Kovalev to big up Canelo?

I wouldn't mention that fight if I were you.

1. Short notice, Kovalev just came out of a grueling fight where he almost got stopped by a prospect who doesn't even Spar and had about 15 pro fights and only eight or so amateur fights.

2. Rehydration clause. Canelo not only gave short notice but also put a rehydration clause as well in the contract so that Kovalev couldn't rehydrate the way he normally does..

3. Old and washed up. Kovalev has not been the same since Andre Ward destroyed him in their rematch. He was even knocked out by another bum after the Ward fight and was almost stopped by a prospect who doesn't even spar, smh.

4. Suspected dive. Lol, anyone who watched the fight saw how Kovalev seemed to be going out of his way not to hurt Alvarez. Never seen Kovalev ever throw such pitty pat punches, it was quite frankly ridiculous.


Ps. Canelo also put a rehydration clause in the contract with Jacobs and Jacobs was never elite anyway. Jacobs is of the sane variety of the Postols of the world.

Caneloweight, rehydration clause, blatantly ducking the best available guy and going life and death and arguably losing twice to old man GGG, testing positive for peds, etc.

Canelo is a joke as p4p.

The best part is Canelo is fighting Smith, and Crawford just fought Brook!

The other best part is that the thread title says “Crawford Mania..” lol

[Doubledagger]

Yeah Breadman is a two faced snake. He blamed Jrock for their split, that Julius had too many distractions, and the assh0le even said he couldn’t PERSONALLY be with Jrock after two losses. He never took responsibility for any of that. Ridiculous ego and that shet will turn on him again. Remember that mailbag where he said Jrock could beat Canelo.

It’s obvious Breadman been having a bad year. He knows Crawford is losing image and the Brook fight was bad. Knowing that Canelo’s current challenge is great for boxing. Instead he brings up exactly as u mentioned, ridiculous deflection. This guy said Canelo failed two tests from 3 days apart. Lol. The whole UFC world and USADA literally said the reason Jon Jones failed in 2018 was because he had traces dormant in his system a whole year!!! A whole year!!! That’s an agency backing up such a claim. Therefore it’s obvious a third day test would show depletion as was Canelo’s.

Don’t hate on Crawford bro. Bud has huge respect for Canelo as does Canelo to him.

The focus is that Breadman is a piece of shet. He’s a race baiter and selects fabricated questions that detail that “racism isn’t important,” just to foreshadow or subtextually trick others that Bread will respond to sound neutral when in fact his agenda to be just pro-black

Bruh Breadman saying that Jrock could beat Canelo does not prove anything bad about him. No trainer would admit their fighter is inferior to another. Imagine how the fighter would feel if their own trainer was out saying so and so would beat my guy? Ridiculous! To even expect him to say otherwise just speaks highly of how unrealistic and self righteous you are.

Canelo's current fight is great for Boxing?

If Canelo vs Smith is great for boxing then Crawford vs Indongo was great for boxing.

Lol, tell me what Smith has done that Indongo hadn't?

Unbeaten champion? Check?

What else?

Calum Smith doesn't even have a single good quality win.

Indongo actually KO'D two elite opponents before facing Crawford, and unlike Smith, who has only one belt, Indongo was a unfied champion.

Lets not forget how Smith just recently arguably lost to no name bum called Ryder and won by robbery. Exposed.

But because Canelo is fighting him and not Crawford, all of a sudden Smith is the greatest fight that ever happened.

Phuck outta here!

You accuse Breadman of being racist and bro black, take a good look in the mirror you ped cheat, caneloweight, cherry picking supporting biatch!

[Doubledagger]

The best part is Canelo is fighting Smith, and Crawford just fought Brook!

The other best part is that the thread title says “Crawford Mania..” lol

The best part is that Smith has absolutely no big wins on his resumez unlike Brook who at least had a win over Porter.

The second best part is that Smith just came out of a loss to Ryder, who was robbed after exposing what a bum Smith actually is.

[Thuglife Nelo]

When has quackford actually beaten someone genuinely elite let alone bigger than him? Oh yeah thats right his best wins nuthuggers keep harking back to was half a decade ago when Bud was weightbullying at 135. No kovalev types no Jacobs types,no Smith types No Trouts,or Laras,nothing but washed ups & never has beens on his stank resume,this dude Bread is a joke for claiming those wins are top fighters any way comparable to Canelos usual opponents despite Canelos opponents being like 3or4/1 underdogs or even favorites & Crawfords best ww wins were like 12/1 or worse.

No mention by Bread that Charlo already ducked Canelo(& admitted it a yr after) as did Plant,no mention that hes running out of boogieman to justify his hating.

A lot of Canelo haters feel salty because there’s a new narrative that Canelo is “free” from GBP. It was essential in adding “GBP” or “Oscar” as a means to discredit Canelo. They would even joke sexual innuendos about Oscar and Canelo...

So much of it never had much to do with Canelo, but how “GBP” managed Canelo. All Canelo had to do was perform in the ring . In the end karma prevails and the good are rewarded. Canelo haters don’t want to acknowledge that. Take it like jealous ex gf’s with a chip over their shoulder

[Thuglife Nelo]

Bruh Breadman saying that Jrock could beat Canelo does not prove anything bad about him. No trainer would admit their fighter is inferior to another. Imagine how the fighter would feel if their own trainer was out saying so and so would beat my guy? Ridiculous! To even expect him to say otherwise just speaks highly of how unrealistic and self righteous you are.

Canelo's current fight is great for Boxing?

If Canelo vs Smith is great for boxing then Crawford vs Indongo was great for boxing.

Lol, tell me what Smith has done that Indongo hadn't?

Unbeaten champion? Check?

What else?

Calum Smith doesn't even have a single good quality win.

Indongo actually KO'D two elite opponents before facing Crawford, and unlike Smith, who has only one belt, Indongo was a unfied champion.

Lets not forget how Smith just recently arguably lost to no name bum called Ryder and won by robbery. Exposed.

But because Canelo is fighting him and not Crawford, all of a sudden Smith is the greatest fight that ever happened.

Phuck outta here!

You accuse Breadman of being racist and bro black, take a good look in the mirror you ped cheat, caneloweight, cherry picking supporting biatch!

Stephen Edwards was never asked “could Jrock beat Canelo?” In one of his mailbags he was asked “who could beat Canelo” and Breadman said “Jrock.” That was Breadman bandwagoning to want a payday. Ok, we get it. So Bread always brings up PEDS with Canelo, so it would mean that if Canelo vs Jrock ever happened, Bread would always bring up PEDS, so why would they want to fight Canelo in the first place?

Stephen Edwards is just an unoriginal goon

[Thuglife Nelo]

The best part is that Smith has absolutely no big wins on his resumez unlike Brook who at least had a win over Porter.

The second best part is that Smith just came out of a loss to Ryder, who was robbed after exposing what a bum Smith actually is.

Boxing writers don’t have the power or motivation to cherry pick such theory in that Brook was the better choice than Smith. It’s an impossible circumstance. If Smith had been destroyed by a Cruiser and then KO’d again at Super Middleweight then you could compare Smith to Brook. Not happening! Groves too fought World Champions and made noise before Brook vs Porter.

Canelo vs Smith represents true P4P consistency. Industry doesn’t care about Crawford’s “only” option with Brook. You do what you gotta do to maintain P4P status. Crawford could’ve prioritized and gone up to 154 for Texeira. Surely Teixeira doesn’t seem a threat.. although he did beat up Bud’s sparring partner in Adames. I also figured that had Adamas won Top Rank and Bud would’ve chased Adames for the 154 belt. That’s usually how it works. Just like Canelo has used Yildirim as a sparring partner. Therefore, Smith is levels above Yildirim in every aspect.

Canelo continues fighting the best

[Doubledagger]

Stephen Edwards was never asked “could Jrock beat Canelo?” In one of his mailbags he was asked “who could beat Canelo” and Breadman said “Jrock.” That was Breadman bandwagoning to want a payday. Ok, we get it. So Bread always brings up PEDS with Canelo, so it would mean that if Canelo vs Jrock ever happened, Bread would always bring up PEDS, so why would they want to fight Canelo in the first place?

Stephen Edwards is just an unoriginal goon

Doesn't matter the context with the Jrock thing. Jrock has alluded to wanting to move up to 160 before because of how hard it is to make the weight and Canelo was campaigning at 160 at the time. Obviously putting Jrock's name in the hat makes sense since those two divisions are close to each other.

Anyway the fact that Jrock complained about weight at 154 might give credence to Stephen's criticism of Jrock's motivation and discipline. That guy is way too small to be complaining about weight. If Rosario, Jermell, and even Hurd and Harrison can make weight, there is no reason he couldn't.

As for the peds thing. Stephen has ALWAYS maintained a strong point against peds.

The only time I ever see him being lenient on ped users is in reference to his favorite fighters when he was coming up or growing up. James Toney, Evander Holyfield, and Roy Jones to be precise. All were his favorite fighters if you listen to him talkint about them, but he often ignores their ped issues or brushes them off or excuses them.

But in terms of currently active boxers, Bread has a very strict no ped stance. He has also spoken out frequently about his belief that any fighter who can afford random blood testing but doesn't use it is a ped cheat.

Its not a Canelo thing because Bread has largely had a strict and firm standpoint against ped use.

Someone should ask him about Manny Pacquiao vs Thurman though.

From what I understand there was no vada for that fight and that was Manny's call.

I know Manny is one of his favorite fighters and I know that he is lenient towards past greats but not boxers of this generation.

Manny seems to be both right now, a past great but also a top fighter in this generation.

I would be interested to hear his response.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Doesn't matter the context with the Jrock thing. Jrock has alluded to wanting to move up to 160 before because of how hard it is to make the weight and Canelo was campaigning at 160 at the time. Obviously putting Jrock's name in the hat makes sense since those two divisions are close to each other.

Anyway the fact that Jrock complained about weight at 154 might give credence to Stephen's criticism of Jrock's motivation and discipline. That guy is way too small to be complaining about weight. If Rosario, Jermell, and even Hurd and Harrison can make weight, there is no reason he couldn't.

As for the peds thing. Stephen has ALWAYS maintained a strong point against peds.

The only time I ever see him being lenient on ped users is in reference to his favorite fighters when he was coming up or growing up. James Toney, Evander Holyfield, and Roy Jones to be precise. All were his favorite fighters if you listen to him talkint about them, but he often ignores their ped issues or brushes them off or excuses them.

But in terms of currently active boxers, Bread has a very strict no ped stance. He has also spoken out frequently about his belief that any fighter who can afford random blood testing but doesn't use it is a ped cheat.

Its not a Canelo thing because Bread has largely had a strict and firm standpoint against ped use.

Someone should ask him about Manny Pacquiao vs Thurman though.

From what I understand there was no vada for that fight and that was Manny's call.

I know Manny is one of his favorite fighters and I know that he is lenient towards past greats but not boxers of this generation.

Manny seems to be both right now, a past great but also a top fighter in this generation.

I would be interested to hear his response.

I don’t buy it. Stephen Edwards specifically states “two failed tests” that were done within a span of 3 days. The 2nd test was depleted. People literally think Team Canelo would drop more pills after his first test. How would Team Canelo know they would come again? Ideally a new dose would’ve spiked Canelo’s finding higher on the second test, not deplete. I’ve heard fans say Canelo tried to wash out Clen after his second test. It was an obvious and failed witch hunt. I think all fighters are on particular gems like supplement combinations, and which is why some fighters feel comfortable being at SNAC - as was Jrock there.

The fact of the matter is WADA wouldn’t need to give word elite athletes any favors for the numerous sports there are and waive Clen and apply a threshold for 2ng. That means WADA allows cheating? For something of this magnitude means Clen in particular countries is a very common occurrence. The WBC and VADA had already known about this for years since Goodman said it herself and she waived Francisco Vargas years prior whom had higher than Canelo. Vargas went back to Mexico, ate, and within a week he tested positive for Clen. Don’t you think Goodman or the WBC would suspect that - if they wanted to cheat - that Conte told Vargas to go to Mexico and take it since they could blame meat? I mean would Goodman and VADA be dummies? Again, WADA changed a new world rule. Canelo haters don’t want to admit that.

Breadman is a goon

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All it means is that Canelo's Clen case hasn't been definitely proven to be due to deliberate use nor has it been proven to be through contamination.

The interim change in WADAs code merely reflects their acknowledgement that in countries where Clenbuterol contamination is a reasonable probability - China, Mexico and Guatamala - they can't be sure of guilt below certain thresholds (which is actually 5ng/ml rather than 2ng/ml currently). Research is underway to hopefuly provide a reliable method of discriminating. Athletes from other countries are not granted the same leeway.

https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau...tice_final.pdf

Yes, I understand the implications of wada"s *********s, I just wasn't aware they'd actually set a threshold measurement - or that Mexico was the only country covered by it!

Look for the drug cheats to make camp in Mexico!

Thanks.