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Originally posted by rrayvez View Postp4p is subjective. No need to publish a novel of tears just because bread doesn't think Canelo is God's gift to boxing. As far as clen, Canelo used it and knew he had a built in excuse once he got caught which was Mexican meat. He also knew that his fans,people like you, would still support him despite everyone else with common sense knowing he's really a cheat. It's no coincidence that he got busted the first time vada tested him in Mexico and it was also the furthest out from a fight he had been tested. He used it to cut weight and increase stamina. Doesn't take a genius.
derp derp derp
the WBC abide by the new WADA rule of 2ng. Why wasnt Francisco Vargas tested 3 days apart like Canelo whom had 1.2ng, double of Canelo, while Goodman VADA CEO said there was nothing wrong with Vargas. you guys don't have a clue
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Originally posted by Al Broker View PostThat doesn't make any sense. Clenbuterol doesnt revolve around VADA. the World Anti Doping Agency (WADA) are the ones whom tell agencies worldwide, like VADA, that Clenbuterol NOW has a threshold. VADA is only but one agency out of 100's worldwide that abide to the WADA list. WTF would WADA revise in 2019 a NEW 2NG threshold for Clenbuterol. There was never a threshold before that. You guys can't even figure out what is IN COMPETITION vs OUT OF COMPETITION. What would be more odd, Canelo having failed a test for Clenbuterol 3 weeks before his fight or 80 days before his fight? Whichever one you answer, WADA NOW CLEARS Canelo's trace amounts which were .6ng. That 1.4ng LOWER than 2ng, which is the new established threshold. Why would WADA even make a new threshold for all your tinfoil thinkers regarding ''CHEATING.''
derp derp derp
the WBC abide by the new WADA rule of 2ng. Why wasnt Francisco Vargas tested 3 days apart like Canelo whom had 1.2ng, double of Canelo, while Goodman VADA CEO said there was nothing wrong with Vargas. you guys don't have a clue
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Originally posted by Al Broker View PostYeah Breadman is a two faced snake. He blamed Jrock for their split, that Julius had too many distractions, and the assh0le even said he couldn’t PERSONALLY be with Jrock after two losses. He never took responsibility for any of that. Ridiculous ego and that shet will turn on him again. Remember that mailbag where he said Jrock could beat Canelo.
It’s obvious Breadman been having a bad year. He knows Crawford is losing image and the Brook fight was bad. Knowing that Canelo’s current challenge is great for boxing. Instead he brings up exactly as u mentioned, ridiculous deflection. This guy said Canelo failed two tests from 3 days apart. Lol. The whole UFC world and USADA literally said the reason Jon Jones failed in 2018 was because he had traces dormant in his system a whole year!!! A whole year!!! That’s an agency backing up such a claim. Therefore it’s obvious a third day test would show depletion as was Canelo’s.
Don’t hate on Crawford bro. Bud has huge respect for Canelo as does Canelo to him.
The focus is that Breadman is a piece of shet. He’s a race baiter and selects fabricated questions that detail that “racism isn’t important,” just to foreshadow or subtextually trick others that Bread will respond to sound neutral when in fact his agenda to be just pro-black
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A fighter can be more accomplished and not be better.
I feel as though along with Accomplishments and Competition faced, you have to factor in Eye Ball Test. You also have to simply ask yourself who would win if they were the same size naturally. I also ask who would beat more people. I feel as though Crawford has an edge in Eye Ball test, who would win if they were the same size and who would beat more people.
I have been saying that for YEARS on this site
I used to cut/paste a similar comment EVERY month... whenever the P4P list was updated
resume only = ATG criteria
no idea how some of you guys did not know the difference between ATG/P4P
well... now, you know
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Originally posted by Al Broker View PostThat doesn't make any sense. Clenbuterol doesnt revolve around VADA. the World Anti Doping Agency (WADA) are the ones whom tell agencies worldwide, like VADA, that Clenbuterol NOW has a threshold. VADA is only but one agency out of 100's worldwide that abide to the WADA list. WTF would WADA revise in 2019 a NEW 2NG threshold for Clenbuterol. There was never a threshold before that. You guys can't even figure out what is IN COMPETITION vs OUT OF COMPETITION. What would be more odd, Canelo having failed a test for Clenbuterol 3 weeks before his fight or 80 days before his fight? Whichever one you answer, WADA NOW CLEARS Canelo's trace amounts which were .6ng. That 1.4ng LOWER than 2ng, which is the new established threshold. Why would WADA even make a new threshold for all your tinfoil thinkers regarding ''CHEATING.''
derp derp derp
the WBC abide by the new WADA rule of 2ng. Why wasnt Francisco Vargas tested 3 days apart like Canelo whom had 1.2ng, double of Canelo, while Goodman VADA CEO said there was nothing wrong with Vargas. you guys don't have a clue
Thanks Al.
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Originally posted by tokon View PostInteresting information, certainly food for thought.
Thanks Al.
The interim change in WADAs code merely reflects their acknowledgement that in countries where Clenbuterol contamination is a reasonable probability - China, Mexico and Guatamala - they can't be sure of guilt below certain thresholds (which is actually 5ng/ml rather than 2ng/ml currently). Research is underway to hopefuly provide a reliable method of discriminating. Athletes from other countries are not granted the same leeway.
https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau...tice_final.pdfLast edited by Citizen Koba; 11-21-2020, 09:42 PM.
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Originally posted by rrayvez View Postyou sure put a lot of effort into defending a proven cheat. You must really idolize this man. Now to facts, Clenbuterol leaves your system very quickly, so unless they test you within the first couple of days of using it, only trace amounts would show up. A substance that helps with keeping weight down and improves lung functions which enhances stamina can help a boxer at any point whether its days or months before a fight. If you want to defend cheaters, that's cool, just spare me your list of bull in an attempt to get me to go against the obvious truth that Canelo is a dirty cheat.
You completely missed the point that WADA now approved 2ng of Clenbuterol as a threshold. That’s 1.4ng higher than Canelo’s findings. You’re better off saying “WADA now approves cheats in every country worldwide because they’ve created a threshold.” I guess reading comprehension wasn’t your best as a kid. “Comprehension” goes a long way in life
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