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  • Bluebird
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    #101
    Originally posted by BodyBagz
    And Pac fans are already lining up to buy tickets

    Hypocritical buffoons.

    Pac following in May's footsteps once again

    Both of them already paid their dues in boxing, they got nothing to prove anymore and they could fight whoever they want to fight. With covid-19 going on, you’ve got to be a hypocrite not to take the fight that could give you the biggest amount of money.

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    • BodyBagz
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      #102
      Originally posted by Bluebird
      Both of them already paid their dues in boxing, they got nothing to prove anymore and they could fight whoever they want to fight. With covid-19 going on, you’ve got to be a hypocrite not to take the fight that could give you the biggest amount of money.
      Pac fans hate everything May does.
      When Pac does the SAME SHlT AFTERWARDS, they love it.

      Hypocritical doofs, regardless of a virus.

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      • Sid-Knee
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        #103
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        Joshua is a relative nobody in America. Deal with it.

        I proved to you that Spence's numbers are much better than Crawford's.

        I think we're done here.
        Stop avoiding the question i asked you. Are you going to run away like the coward everyone over there seems to be?

        You're the one who made the comments. Now back them up. Why did you say 15 Mill was a lowball offer for the fight in the UK considering Wilder is a complete nobody over here?

        You want to ignore it because i've caught out your hypocrisy and you don't want to answer to it. Tough. Answer to it, coward.

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          #104
          Originally posted by Sid-Knee
          Stop avoiding the question i asked you. Are you going to run away like the coward everyone over there seems to be?

          You're the one who made the comments. Now back them up. Why did you say 15 Mill was a lowball offer for the fight in the UK considering Wilder is a complete nobody over here?

          You want to ignore it because i've caught out your hypocrisy and you don't want to answer to it. Tough. Answer to it, coward.
          Even if the fight was in the UK there would be American PPV, genius.

          Since Wilder would be responsible for attracting the vast majority of that revenue he would be deserving of a 50/50 split. Which would amount to a lot more than a measly $15 million.

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            #105
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
            Even if the fight was in the UK there would be American PPV, genius.

            Since Wilder would be responsible for attracting the vast majority of that revenue he would be deserving of a 50/50 split. Which would amount to a lot more than a measly $15 million.
            Even with the time difference? No, there wouldn't be PPV in the US. Fights at that time don't come anywhere near to doing as good as prime time. And Wembley (Or any other stadium) wouldn't be allowed to stage the fight past midnight.

            Wilder's numbers are tragic in the US without another star fighter. Just look at Ortiz compared to the Fury numbers. They were there for Fury, not Wilder. Just like they were in the arena.

            There's a reason (Even though it was bullshlt) AJ was offered 50 Mill but Wilder wasn't. Had it been real and gone through, Wilder would have been paid a few mill after getting knocked out because the PPV money wouldn't be able to cover AJ's money. Just like they lost 10's of millions on the Fury rematch. All the claims it was a 100 Million dollar fight in the US was bullshlt. Wilder doesn't generate any money so it would be all down to AJ. But you say he isn't a star in the US? Haha.

            Sorry, but you're talking shlt. Wilder loses the money men their money. He doesn't make it. He's a bum who made nothing for them. All this to try and look like they were big time to convince AJ and Hearn they deserved more money backfired in a big way. Wilder got slumped by Fury like a drum in one sided fashion, lost the promoters and the backers a lot of money, and is now crying like the delusional freak he is with all the ego mania getting on top of him.

            Couldn't happen to nicer people. and i hope more misery is to come for that piece of shlt.

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              #106
              Originally posted by Sid-Knee
              Even with the time difference? No, there wouldn't be PPV in the US. Fights at that time don't come anywhere near to doing as good as prime time. And Wembley (Or any other stadium) wouldn't be allowed to stage the fight past midnight.

              Wilder's numbers are tragic in the US without another star fighter. Just look at Ortiz compared to the Fury numbers. They were there for Fury, not Wilder. Just like they were in the arena.

              There's a reason (Even though it was bullshlt) AJ was offered 50 Mill but Wilder wasn't. Had it been real and gone through, Wilder would have been paid a few mill after getting knocked out because the PPV money wouldn't be able to cover AJ's money. Just like they lost 10's of millions on the Fury rematch. All the claims it was a 100 Million dollar fight in the US was bullshlt. Wilder doesn't generate any money so it would be all down to AJ. But you say he isn't a star in the US? Haha.

              Sorry, but you're talking shlt. Wilder loses the money men their money. He doesn't make it. He's a bum who made nothing for them. All this to try and look like they were big time to convince AJ and Hearn they deserved more money backfired in a big way. Wilder got slumped by Fury like a drum in one sided fashion, lost the promoters and the backers a lot of money, and is now crying like the delusional freak he is with all the ego mania getting on top of him.

              Couldn't happen to nicer people. and i hope more misery is to come for that piece of shlt.
              What are you talking about? There is no way PBC would agree to a fight against Joshua without pay per view. That's ridiculous, why would they leave money on the table???

              Wilder vs Ortiz 2 did 275,000-300,000 buys on PPV. So you're wrong about "tragic" numbers.

              Fury wasn't a draw as evidenced by the fact he only sold 3500 tickets for the Wallin fight in Vegas. No one was buying the PPV to just to see him.

              Had enough yet? Does that answer all your questions? Have I slapped you around enough already or is there something else?

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                #107
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                What are you talking about? There is no way PBC would agree to a fight against Joshua without pay per view. That's ridiculous, why would they leave money on the table???

                Wilder vs Ortiz 2 did 275,000-300,000 buys on PPV. So you're wrong about "tragic" numbers.

                Fury wasn't a draw as evidenced by the fact he only sold 3500 tickets for the Wallin fight in Vegas. No one was buying the PPV to just to see him.

                Had enough yet? Does that answer all your questions? Have I slapped you around enough already or is there something else?
                So they would have a PPV in the US at about 5pm for a guy who is a complete nobody in Wilder? Yeah, sure they would. when have they done this great idea again?

                Why did AJ get offered 50 Mill if he isn't the star here, but Wilder didn't? Isn't that Haymon, Wilder and Shirley admitting that AJ is very much the star?

                You believe they aren't tragic numbers? Haha. Yes they are. Just as you're tragic in all your hypocrisy and contradictions. How many PPV's do you think it sells in the US at 5pm with the nobody Wilder, and the guy who supposedly isn't a star in the US in AJ?

                Wilder isn't a star otherwise he would have sold more PPV's off his own back. He didn't. He failed. He factually needed Fury. Check the numbers. Fury wasn't going to sell tickets as a foreign fighter fighting complete nobodies they haven't heard of before. But those numbers are actually close to the ticket sales Wilder has done in his pathetic excuse of a career. and he's the home fighter having practically all his fights in the US.

                You're not slapping anyone. The only one here on view getting slapped around is you and your delusion.

                Answer the questions.

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                • Bluebird
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by BodyBagz
                  Pac fans hate everything May does.
                  When Pac does the SAME SHlT AFTERWARDS, they love it.

                  Hypocritical doofs, regardless of a virus.

                  I am a Pac fan but I didn’t hate everything Mayweather did, I think fighting McGregor was a brilliant idea "money wise”, Muhammad Ali fought Inoki, a Japanese professional wrestler in the ‘70s although it’s not a boxing match. Like I said, him and Pac already paid their dues in boxing so they could fight anybody they want when the money is right. The young and undefeated fighters nowadays wouldn’t fight each other, they’re the ones that should be criticized.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Roadblock
                    I thought they were signed to fight before Redkach, that only came about when Errol withdrew after the accident which postponed Garcia.
                    Garcia called him out in March 2019, but it was in discussion as potential fight...
                    I don't think they signed.

                    I'm not 100% sure though.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                      So they would have a PPV in the US at about 5pm for a guy who is a complete nobody in Wilder? Yeah, sure they would. when have they done this great idea again?
                      IF the fight was to be held in England they would attempt to accommodate American PPV as much as possible with the start time.

                      But because of the large sums of money involved it's extremely likely that they would have ended up putting the bout in Las Vegas instead.

                      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                      Why did AJ get offered 50 Mill if he isn't the star here, but Wilder didn't? Isn't that Haymon, Wilder and Shirley admitting that AJ is very much the star?
                      Haymon is very familiar with how much money can be brought in from Vegas site fees and a successful PPV. Offering a $50 million guarantee is nothing if they get to keep the rest.

                      The question is why Joshua declined and ducked the offer? Since $50 million is exactly what he had asked for?

                      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                      You believe they aren't tragic numbers? Haha. Yes they are. Just as you're tragic in all your hypocrisy and contradictions. How many PPV's do you think it sells in the US at 5pm with the nobody Wilder, and the guy who supposedly isn't a star in the US in AJ?
                      They aren't tragic at all.

                      Pacquiao vs Broner sold around 400,000 PPVs. Those are two fighters with high name recognition.

                      For Wilder to get ~300,000 buys in this era against a relative unknown like Luis Ortiz is quite good.

                      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                      Wilder isn't a star otherwise he would have sold more PPV's off his own back. He didn't. He failed. He factually needed Fury. Check the numbers. Fury wasn't going to sell tickets as a foreign fighter fighting complete nobodies they haven't heard of before. But those numbers are actually close to the ticket sales Wilder has done in his pathetic excuse of a career. and he's the home fighter having practically all his fights in the US.
                      Fury flopped against Wallin. 3500 tickets sold. And 5489 tickets sold against Schwarz.

                      Wilder had 13,182 in attendance for the Breazeale fight.

                      Those numbers are not close at all.

                      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                      You're not slapping anyone. The only one here on view getting slapped around is you and your delusion.

                      Answer the questions.
                      I just relay the facts. If you get butthurt about them or start to cry then that's on you.

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