Comments Thread For: Spence: Crawford, Pacquiao Got One Person To Talk To - Al Haymon!

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So more deflection and strawman arguments? Great. Yeah, you know how to make your point don't you? Haha. What a clown.

AJ hasn't done a PPV though on a station like Showtime or Fox has he? So that isn't an argument. That's basically saying That Crolla is a bigger star than every American out there because he's done PPV in the UK but they haven't.

Why didn't Wilder's ratings get him more money when shown on Showtime? Why can't he sell out a 14,000 arena? Why doesn't he generate much money from ticket sales? Because he's a bum. Just like Broner was.

Broner gets more viewers on Showtime, but would you say he's the A side with everyone in or around his weight class? Haha. No, he isn't even close.

Ratings are different when shown at prime time to the middle of the day. If AJ had a few fights on prime time Showtime, he'd get a lot more viewers than the home grown fighter. We both know that. Look at how many watched in the US on an app for the Ruiz fight. It was the most watched fight on DAZN.

Stop talking crap.

You're the one that tried to draw a comparison between Spence-Crawford and Wilder-Joshua.

I've explained to you why they are different.

You can come up with whatever excuse you want but AJ's numbers are inferior in every way to Wilder's. Hence a 50/50 split was justified.

Crawford has no numbers in his favor to justify a 50/50 split with Spence.

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You're the one that tried to draw a comparison between Spence- Crawford and Wilder-Joshua.

I've explained to you why they are different.

You can come up with whatever excuse you want but AJ's numbers are inferior in every way to Wilder's. Hence a 50/50 split was justified.

Crawford has no numbers in his favor to justify a 50/50 split with Spence.

I didn't make a comparison between Spence/Crawford and AJ/Wilder. I was simply pointing out your hypocrisy. Crawford and Spence are around about the same so should split it 50/50. AJ was the biggest star in the boxing world with Wilder being a bum who makes nothing and can't sell tickets. There's an obvious difference.

You said Wilder was lowballed when offered the AJ fight in the UK for 15 Mill. But Wilder has never sold a single ticket in the UK nor had any more than 100,000 watch him, so his ratings are worthless. Not a single PPV over here to be seen. Now justify your delusional stance when you said this madness without contradicting yourself?

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I didn't make a comparison between Spence/Crawford and AJ/Wilder. I was simply pointing out your hypocrisy. Crawford and Spence are around about the same so should split it 50/50. AJ was the biggest star in the boxing world with Wilder being a bum who makes nothing and can't sell tickets. There's an obvious difference.

You said Wilder was lowballed when offered the AJ fight in the UK for 15 Mill. But Wilder has never sold a single ticket in the UK nor had any more than 100,000 watch him, so his ratings are worthless. Not a single PPV over here to be seen. Now justify your delusional stance when you said this madness without contradicting yourself?

Spence and Crawford are most definitely NOT about the same. All the numbers are lopsided in Errol's favor.

Joshua is more popular than Wilder in the UK. But the numbers in America are lopsided in Wilder's favor.

It's really simple to understand. You just don't like it so you refuse to acknowledge the truth.

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Spence and Crawford are most definitely NOT about the same. All the numbers are lopsided in Errol's favor.

Joshua is more popular than Wilder in the UK. But the numbers in America are lopsided in Wilder's favor.

It's really simple to understand. You just don't like it so you refuse to acknowledge the truth.

Stop avoiding the question. You said the 15 Mill was a lowball offer. Consider yourself exposed and found to be a hypocrite who does nothing but contradict himself through sheer bias.

Tell me what the numbers are for both Crawford and Spence?

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Stop avoiding the question. You said the 15 Mill was a lowball offer. Consider yourself exposed and found to be a hypocrite who does nothing but contradict himself through sheer bias.

Tell me what the numbers are for both Crawford and Spence?

15 mill WAS a lowball offer. Wilder deserved a 50/50 split.



Crawford vs Postol - ~50,000
Crawford vs Khan - 125-150,000

Spence vs Garcia - 330,000-350,000
Spence vs Porter - 275,000-300,000

Crawford vs Khan gate was around 1.5M. His gate vs Horn was over 900,000 but less than a million.

Spence vs Garcia gate was over 4M, but less than 5M.

Spence vs Porter gate was 2.3M.

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15 mill WAS a lowball offer. Wilder deserved a 50/50 split.



Crawford vs Postol - ~50,000
Crawford vs Khan - 125-150,000

Spence vs Garcia - 330,000-350,000
Spence vs Porter - 275,000-300,000

Crawford vs Khan gate was around 1.5M. His gate vs Horn was over 900,000 but less than a million.

Spence vs Garcia gate was over 4M, but less than 5M.

Spence vs Porter gate was 2.3M.

You really are a ret3rd aren't you? Your argument for Wilder deserving 50/50 for a fight in the US was down to him being (Hahaha) a bigger star in the US and having the better ratings, even though that never translated into money. So i asked then why did you think 15 Mill was a lowball offer for a fight in the UK even though Wilder wasn't even close to being anybody over here and didn't have any ratings, PPV numbers, or ticket sales? And this is what you came back with? GTFOH with your nonsense.

Mikey and Porter are both American and fresh.

Neither Khan nor Postal are American. Khan is known, but was shot to bits. Postal was barely known. So of course Spence was going to do the better numbers. Had it been the other way round, the numbers would swap.

Neither are big names. neither is bigger than the other. Yet here we are again with American cowards making sure fights don't happen due to money and being supported by supposed boxing fans justifying this bullshlt even though they're being hypocrites and contradicting themselves all over the place.

You don't see any of that money what so ever. So get sane and reasonable, and let them both know that they're cowards if they don't come to an agreement and do what makes sense... Which is split it 50/50.

Or continue to not see it happen until one is finished or both, and yet again not see an important fight due to American cowardice like so many times throughout history.

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You really are a ret3rd aren't you? Your argument for Wilder deserving 50/50 for a fight in the US was down to him being (Hahaha) a bigger star in the US and having the better ratings, even though that never translated into money. So i asked then why did you think 15 Mill was a lowball offer for a fight in the UK even though Wilder wasn't even close to being anybody over here and didn't have any ratings, PPV numbers, or ticket sales? And this is what you came back with? GTFOH with your nonsense.

Mikey and Porter are both American and fresh.

Neither Khan nor Postal are American. Khan is known, but was shot to bits. Postal was barely known. So of course Spence was going to do the better numbers. Had it been the other way round, the numbers would swap.

Neither are big names. neither is bigger than the other. Yet here we are again with American cowards making sure fights don't happen due to money and being supported by supposed boxing fans justifying this bullshlt even though they're being hypocrites and contradicting themselves all over the place.

You don't see any of that money what so ever. So get sane and reasonable, and let them both know that they're cowards if they don't come to an agreement and do what makes sense... Which is split it 50/50.

Or continue to not see it happen until one is finished or both, and yet again not see an important fight due to American cowardice like so many times throughout history.

Joshua is a relative nobody in America. Deal with it.

I proved to you that Spence's numbers are much better than Crawford's.

I think we're done here.

[BodyBagz]

Pac already confirmed he will fight McGregor next year.

https://www.si.com/boxing/2020/09/26...ight-confirmed

And Pac fans are already lining up to buy tickets

Hypocritical buffoons.

Pac following in May's footsteps once again

[HandsofIron]

See this is the problem with boxing today, promoters have too much control, they decide who's going to fight and who doesn't.

It's not like the old days where the sanctioning bodies enforced the rules by having their champions face their mandatories. The champs fight the 1 contender and that was it, none of this a-side, b-side, talk to my manger bs.

[Ry92]

Pacquaio got 2 fights left maybe 3 none vs spence or crawford. Pacquaio deserves to at this point only take $ fights med to low risk that ppl gonna buy. None below 50m so Pac vs mcgregor pac vs mikey garcia and or amir khan in arabia or uae. Spence keep doing u. Crawford gotta go to pbc on 3 fight deal mandatory spence fight and bank on self cash out build/ enhance legacy then go on for $ fights with med to low risk aka the mayweather plan that canelo currently follows and pac looking to follow. Work way up build name cash out t then after fought evrryone relevant go fight whomever last yrs of career for most $ lil to no risk