Comments Thread For: Spence: Crawford, Pacquiao Got One Person To Talk To - Al Haymon!

[BoZz]

Spence and pac got nothing to prove, Crawlford on the other hand hasn't had a solid opponent on his resume..and now he's ducking by asking for a 60/40 split....he's fkn delusional.

[Bluebird]

Pac hoping a fight with Mikey G or C McG can be made.

Pac already confirmed he will fight McGregor next year.

https://www.si.com/boxing/2020/09/26/manny-pacquiao-conor-mcgregor-fight-confirmed

[JLC]

Styles make fights. Spence will not get any bigger PPV than Crawford... realistically speaking. I like how many accountants are into boxing though... or are they personal lawyers? Who knows. I'm just a boxing fan who knows Crawford is #1-2 P4P no matter how many alphabet belts he has.

You’re the one saying “Spence should take 50/50!”

So I guess you are referring to yourself in this statement when you speak of accountants being in to boxing.

don’t try and spin it around because someone doesn’t agree with YOUR financials on how the purse should be split.

Ajvar Accounting and Tax Services, CPA DDS.

Lol

[ShoulderRoll]

Real numbers you say? is that why you thought AJ/Wilder was a 50/50 split? Alongside Wilder holding the supposed most prestigious (Worthless) belt in the WBC? Haha.

I base things on like for like situations as well as numbers. And i have this fight being 50/50 split.

The protection program? You have the PBC and TR mixed up. Arum would put pretty much any fight together if they were in his stable. Yes, a few fights over the years have gone by the wayside, but the vast majority do happen. The same can never be said for PBC.

Wilder is a much bigger draw in America than Anthony Joshua. That justifies the 50/50 split.

Terence Crawford is not a bigger draw than Errol Spence.

Arum is famous for marinating. While Crawford is wasting his prime fighting easy fights Spence has gotten in the ring with every big name PBC welterweight. With the exception of Thurman who hasn't been active.

So yes, Top Rank Protection Program is an accurate term.

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Wilder is a much bigger draw in America than Anthony Joshua. That justifies the 50/50 split.

Terence Crawford is not a bigger draw than Errol Spence.

Arum is famous for marinating. While Crawford is wasting his prime fighting easy fights Spence has gotten in the ring with every big name PBC welterweight. With the exception of Thurman who hasn't been active.

So yes, Top Rank Protection Program is an accurate term.

But Wilder isn't a bigger draw in the US. When has Wilder had that many people turn out and buy tickets for a fight the way AJ did with a fighter who wasn't even a star in Ruiz? And that was AJ's first fight in the US. So this is a backwards argument. AJ was the bigger star full stop. It's like saying Khan is a bigger star in the UK so Floyd should have to travel and give either 50/50 split on the money, or Khan is the A side, even though Floyd makes 10's of millions at home and sells a lot more tickets the way Khan doesn't at home. See how laugh out loud that is? What would you say if a load of backwards people said something this extreme? The boxing world would laugh at such ******ity and desperation. As would you. Do not for one second believe you wouldn't.

Even when Wilder rematched Fury, Vegas was filled with Fury fans. Hardly anyone was there to support the home fighter. That's how pathetic Wilder is. he's a nobody that can't generate money. The fight lost a lot of money for these reasons. Only idiots would put an argument this ridiculous forward. But we all know about the extreme delusion, hypocrisy and contradictions over here that you lot are filled with. It's just embarrassing and desperate in a way that shows how pathetic you people are.

[ShoulderRoll]

But Wilder isn't a bigger draw in the US. When has Wilder had that many people turn out and buy tickets for a fight the way AJ did with a fighter who wasn't even a star in Ruiz? And that was AJ's first fight in the US. So this is a backwards argument. AJ was the bigger star full stop. It's like saying Khan is a bigger star in the UK so Floyd should have to travel and give either 50/50 split on the money, or Khan is the A side, even though Floyd makes 10's of millions at home and sells a lot more tickets the way Khan doesn't at home. See how laugh out loud that is? What would you say if a load of backwards people said something this extreme? The boxing world would laugh at such ******ity and desperation. As would you. Do not for one second believe you wouldn't.

Even when Wilder rematched Fury, Vegas was filled with Fury fans. Hardly anyone was there to support the home fighter. That's how pathetic Wilder is. he's a nobody that can't generate money. The fight lost a lot of money for these reasons. Only idiots would put an argument this ridiculous forward. But we all know about the extreme delusion, hypocrisy and contradictions over here that you lot are filled with. It's just embarrassing and desperate in a way that shows how pathetic you people are.

Fury only sold 3,577 tickets in Vegas against Wallin.

You can check Wilder's rating on Showtime and his American PPV numbers. Then compare them to Joshua's. Wilder is clearly the bigger draw here.

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Fury only sold 3,577 tickets in Vegas against Wallin.

You can check Wilder's rating on Showtime and his American PPV numbers. Then compare them to Joshua's. Wilder is clearly the bigger draw here.

That was for the Wallin fight. We're talking about the Wilder rematch here. So what part of what i said was wrong? Don't use another strawman argument.

What did Wilder's rating ever do for him in terms of fight purse? His first fight with Ortiz netted him 2.1 Mill. That's pitiful.

Wilder's PPV numbers were a flop without Fury. Wilder isn't a star so needed an actual one to make money. AJ has never had to do that because he's the money man at the weight and an actual star. AJ was selling big numbers against fighters the British public didn't even know.

AJ's numbers are over 800,000 for a subscription app at times that aren't prime time the way they are for Wilder. So no, you're talking crap. The same way the viewing figures over here are not what an Anthony Crolla fight has at prime time compared to a fight from the US that is on at about 5.00 AM in the morning.

But continue with your backwards levels of delusion. It's a good thing that coward has finally been caught so we don't have to go over this freak show any more about splits and what not. Just hope you don't find another bum to start your creepy insanity all over again like you've done for years.

[TheUptownKid]

I think arum is passing the buck here, the Errol is saying the right thing. People act like fans clamoring for a fight gets the fights done, but big fights marinate whether the fans want them or not.

What makes a big fight is whether people are willing to travel to see it. No us market is big enough (with enough local boxing fans) to sell out a large venue. The people that travel are more willing to pay premium prices for attendance. This fight has the fan base already, it just needs rules relaxed for Covid and logistics set. It won’t make more money 5 years from now.

[ShoulderRoll]

That was for the Wallin fight. We're talking about the Wilder rematch here. So what part of what i said was wrong? Don't use another strawman argument.

What did Wilder's rating ever do for him in terms of fight purse? His first fight with Ortiz netted him 2.1 Mill. That's pitiful.

Wilder's PPV numbers were a flop without Fury. Wilder isn't a star so needed an actual one to make money. AJ has never had to do that because he's the money man at the weight and an actual star. AJ was selling big numbers against fighters the British public didn't even know.

AJ's numbers are over 800,000 for a subscription app at times that aren't prime time the way they are for Wilder. So no, you're talking crap. The same way the viewing figures over here are not what an Anthony Crolla fight has at prime time compared to a fight from the US that is on at about 5.00 AM in the morning.

But continue with your backwards levels of delusion. It's a good thing that coward has finally been caught so we don't have to go over this freak show any more about splits and what not. Just hope you don't find another bum to start your creepy insanity all over again like you've done for years.

Wilder has a proven history of getting better tv ratings and PPV numbers in AMERICA than Joshua.

When AJ tried to make big noise here in the States he got concussed by a fat guy and sent home with his tail between his legs

You don't have to like it. But it is what it is.

[Sid-Knee]

Wilder has a proven history of getting better tv ratings and PPV numbers in AMERICA than Joshua.

When AJ tried to make big noise here in the States he got concussed by a fat guy and sent home with his tail between his legs

You don't have to like it. But it is what it is.

So more deflection and strawman arguments? Great. Yeah, you know how to make your point don't you? Haha. What a clown.

AJ hasn't done a PPV though on a station like Showtime or Fox has he? So that isn't an argument. That's basically saying That Crolla is a bigger star than every American out there because he's done PPV in the UK but they haven't.

Why didn't Wilder's ratings get him more money when shown on Showtime? Why can't he sell out a 14,000 arena? Why doesn't he generate much money from ticket sales? Because he's a bum. Just like Broner was.

Broner gets more viewers on Showtime, but would you say he's the A side with everyone in or around his weight class? Haha. No, he isn't even close.

Ratings are different when shown at prime time to the middle of the day. If AJ had a few fights on prime time Showtime, he'd get a lot more viewers than the home grown fighter. We both know that. Look at how many watched in the US on an app for the Ruiz fight. It was the most watched fight on DAZN.

Stop talking crap.