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  • ShaneMosleySr
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    #11
    1. False
    2. False
    3. False
    4. True
    5. False, Spence doesn’t deserve it.
    6. False.
    7. False
    8. False

    Definitely worthy of a PPV buy

    Originally posted by KTFOKING
    Let's play a true or false game involving these two fighters.

    1. True or False - Spence deserves the bigger share

    2. True or False - Crawford claims to be more proven, and he deserves the 60/40 split

    3. True or False - Spence is avoiding the fight

    4. True or False - Crawford should be the favorite if these two face off in 2021

    5. True or False - Winner of this fight should be P4P #1 fighter in the world

    6. True or False - Top Rank should just release Crawford now instead of waiting until October 2021 when it expires

    7. True or False - This is the fight you are looking forward to the most

    8. True or False - This fight will happen in 2021

    9. Bonus Question - Not a true or false, but will you be purchasing this PPV for $75 bucks if you live stateside?

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    • deathofaclown
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      #12
      1. False, Neither are crossover stars. 50/50

      2. See above

      3. False. I think they just knew it’s a very unlikely fight to make due to promoters & broadcasters. It’s not a big enough fight for a co broadcast. Neither team have made any serious offer.

      4. True for me, I make Crawford favourite but see why it’s a “50/50”. Dunno how the bookies would have it

      5. False. It’s too subjective to say.

      6. Yeah they should. If they complain about losing money, then they should cut their losses and let Crawford go where he wants, if he wants.

      7. False. One of. Looking forward to Fury v AJ more, although I think Fury beats AJ comfortably, I think they’re different levels. So Crawford v Spence is much more intriguing in a way.

      8. False, unless Crawford gets out of his contract and we know you don’t get out of Top Rank contracts easily as you're a commodity. Ask Mike Garcia. They’d rather keep you and not let you fight

      9. Live in the UK, so no.

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      • KTFOKING
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        #13
        Originally posted by deathofaclown
        1. False, Neither are crossover stars. 50/50

        2. See above

        3. False. I think they just knew it’s a very unlikely fight to make due to promoters & broadcasters. It’s not a big enough fight for a co broadcast. Neither team have made any serious offer.

        4. True for me, I make Crawford favourite but see why it’s a “50/50”. Dunno how the bookies would have it

        5. False. It’s too subjective to say.

        6. Yeah they should. If they complain about losing money, then they should cut their losses and let Crawford go where he wants, if he wants.

        7. False. One of. Looking forward to Fury v AJ more, although I think Fury beats AJ comfortably, I think they’re different levels. So Crawford v Spence is much more intriguing in a way.

        8. False, unless Crawford gets out of his contract and we know you don’t get out of Top Rank contracts easily as you're a commodity. Ask Mike Garcia. They’d rather keep you and not let you fight

        9. Live in the UK, so no.
        Bookies have Errol as the slight favorite but they pretty much just kept their odds pre-accident.

        Yeah, Fury vs Joshua is probably the answer for most, definitely the casuals. And especially being a Brit, I can see why you answered with that. Going to be the biggest fight the country has ever seen.

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        • Fire4231
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          #14
          Let’s go...

          Originally posted by KTFOKING
          Let's play a true or false game involving these two fighters.

          1. True or False - Spence deserves the bigger share
          True, he is the bigger attraction and he has done all the heavy lifting at 147.

          2. True or False - Crawford claims to be more proven, and he deserves the 60/40 split
          True he claimed this...

          3. True or False - Spence is avoiding the fight
          False
          4. True or False - Crawford should be the favorite if these two face off in 2021
          Yeesh...Tough need to see Spence post accident


          5. True or False - Winner of this fight should be P4P #1 fighter in the world
          True

          6. True or False - Top Rank should just release Crawford now instead of waiting until October 2021 when it expires
          True but they won’t, he will try to sabotage Terrence’s career first like Pac. Bob is the renter that trashed the house before he moves.

          7. True or False - This is the fight you are looking forward to the most
          True
          8. True or False - This fight will happen in 2021
          If Terence goes to PBC I don’t see the fight waiting beyond 2022.
          9. Bonus Question - Not a true or false, but will you be purchasing this PPV for $75 bucks if you live stateside?
          Would pay an even bill to host this fight party. Easy

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            #15
            Originally posted by Fire4231
            Let’s go...


            Would pay an even bill to host this fight party. Easy
            Ha! I don't think it will cost $100, but good to know.

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              #16
              Originally posted by KTFOKING
              Let's play a true or false game involving these two fighters.

              1. True or False - Spence deserves the bigger share

              2. True or False - Crawford claims to be more proven, and he deserves the 60/40 split

              3. True or False - Spence is avoiding the fight

              4. True or False - Crawford should be the favorite if these two face off in 2021

              5. True or False - Winner of this fight should be P4P #1 fighter in the world

              6. True or False - Top Rank should just release Crawford now instead of waiting until October 2021 when it expires

              7. True or False - This is the fight you are looking forward to the most

              8. True or False - This fight will happen in 2021

              9. Bonus Question - Not a true or false, but will you be purchasing this PPV for $75 bucks if you live stateside?
              Cool game, let's see:

              1. True or False - Spence deserves the bigger share

              False. Both guys will still get paid if it's 50-50. As long as it's promoted well, which it would and should be.

              2. True or False - Crawford claims to be more proven, and he deserves the 60/40 split

              False. See my answer to #1


              3. True or False - Spence is avoiding the fight

              False, but with the caveat that he doesn't seem to be actively campaigning for it either. He seems indifferent, and I can see where that would be interpreted as avoiding the fight.


              4. True or False - Crawford should be the favorite if these two face off in 2021

              True as of right now, however that could change depending on how Spence looks against Danny Garcia. Ask this question on December 6th for a better answer.

              5. True or False - Winner of this fight should be P4P #1 fighter in the world

              I would say True

              6. True or False - Top Rank should just release Crawford now instead of waiting until October 2021 when it expires

              True, especially after reading those comments from Bob Arum


              7. True or False - This is the fight you are looking forward to the most

              False, but only because it just doesn't seem realistic right now, which is a shame.


              8. True or False - This fight will happen in 2021

              False, although I would love to be wrong. It just seems like Errol Spence Jr. has options to keep him busy until 2022 at least.


              9. Bonus Question - Not a true or false, but will you be purchasing this PPV for $75 bucks if you live stateside?

              I would pay the PPV fee to watch Spence-Crawford in 2021.

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                #17
                False- I don’t think Arum should just release Crawford. But if I were Crawford I would be on the phone with Haymon getting him to negotiate a buyout of my contract.

                I’d get PBC to use the 1 to 2 million for the buyout towards my guarantee if I had to. Get it done immediately so I wouldn’t have to sit out a year. Then I could be ringside at the Spence Garcia fight so I could challenge the winner in the ring after.

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                • KTFOKING
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Outwest Exp 355
                  False- I don’t think Arum should just release Crawford. But if I were Crawford I would be on the phone with Haymon getting him to negotiate a buyout of my contract.

                  I’d get PBC to use the 1 to 2 million for the buyout towards my guarantee if I had to. Get it done immediately so I wouldn’t have to sit out a year. Then I could be ringside at the Spence Garcia fight so I could challenge the winner in the ring after.
                  Arum is definitely going to get paid for Bud to be bought out.

                  But the question for Bud is will PBC pay him as much as TR for his next fight? Let's assume he fights Spence late 2021, then I can see him wanting to finish his deal before making a move.

                  Heck, I still think there's a chance he may even stick with TR until he retires.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by KTFOKING
                    Let's play a true or false game involving these two fighters.

                    1. True or False - Spence deserves the bigger share

                    2. True or False - Crawford claims to be more proven, and he deserves the 60/40 split

                    3. True or False - Spence is avoiding the fight

                    4. True or False - Crawford should be the favorite if these two face off in 2021

                    5. True or False - Winner of this fight should be P4P #1 fighter in the world

                    6. True or False - Top Rank should just release Crawford now instead of waiting until October 2021 when it expires

                    7. True or False - This is the fight you are looking forward to the most

                    8. True or False - This fight will happen in 2021

                    9. Bonus Question - Not a true or false, but will you be purchasing this PPV for $75 bucks if you live stateside?
                    1. True. Spence is the clear A side. Outsold Crawford's best ppv by double and Khan carried that PPV. Errol has 2 belts and both are more prestigious than the WBO.

                    2. False. Crawford is less proven at welterweight. He also fought nobody worth a damn in the lower weights. His best win is either inactive and blown up Gamboa or Postol. Spence has the better names on his resume.

                    3. False. Spence is fighting quality opponents while Crawford fights faded former champs and bums. Crawford is under the Top Rank protection program with ESPN exclusivity to duck the top guys. Don't be surprised if he re-signs again with Top Rank and ESPN exclusivity to duck the top guys until he retires.

                    4. False. With Crawford's opposition you would be an idiot to have him as the favorite. He was dropped by a Eurobum at welterweight. He lost rounds to peg legged Jose Bumavidez. He had to lowblow washed up glass jaw Amir Khan to stop him. He was losing to weight drained washed up Brook before Brook quit.

                    5. False. Canelo is the #1 p4p and would still be unless he loses.

                    6. False. Bob should do what he wants since he's the one losing $ on the hype job.

                    7. False. I look forward to Canelo vs all the 168lbers and 175lbers more.

                    8. False. Crawford is delusional and thinks he is worth more than he is. He thinks he is the A side but isn't. Crawford will price himself out and the fight won't happen.

                    9. Yes
                    Last edited by Fists_of_Fury; 11-20-2020, 10:06 PM.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by KTFOKING
                      Arum is definitely going to get paid for Bud to be bought out.

                      But the question for Bud is will PBC pay him as much as TR for his next fight? Let's assume he fights Spence late 2021, then I can see him wanting to finish his deal before making a move.

                      Heck, I still think there's a chance he may even stick with TR until he retires.
                      He got 4 million for fighting Brook. I can see PBC beating that offer. But if Crawford got 4 million for Brook how much is he going to want for one of the top PBC guys? That’s where it gets tricky.

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