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  • KTFOKING
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    #1

    True Or False: Spence vs Crawford

    Let's play a true or false game involving these two fighters.

    1. True or False - Spence deserves the bigger share

    2. True or False - Crawford claims to be more proven, and he deserves the 60/40 split

    3. True or False - Spence is avoiding the fight

    4. True or False - Crawford should be the favorite if these two face off in 2021

    5. True or False - Winner of this fight should be P4P #1 fighter in the world

    6. True or False - Top Rank should just release Crawford now instead of waiting until October 2021 when it expires

    7. True or False - This is the fight you are looking forward to the most

    8. True or False - This fight will happen in 2021

    9. Bonus Question - Not a true or false, but will you be purchasing this PPV for $75 bucks if you live stateside?
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    1. False, i think it should be 50/50
    2. False, see above
    3. I wouldn’t say avoiding but he’s content on facing the other top WWs first and then the Crawford fight.
    4. Yes i would make Bud the favorite
    5. Nope i’d say #2.
    6. Sure, why not.
    7. Nope
    8. I’d have to say False
    9. Yes

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    • Mammoth
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      #3
      1. False.
      2. False
      3. False
      4. True
      5. True
      6. True
      7. True
      8. True
      9. True as fuck

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      • RHETOЯIC
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        #4
        Originally posted by KTFOKING
        Let's play a true or false game involving these two fighters.

        1. True or False- Spence deserves the bigger share

        - 50/50

        2. True or False- Crawford claims to be more proven, and he deserves the 60/40 split

        - 50/50

        3. True or False - Spence is avoiding the fight

        No. They're showing Crawford the problem with being signed to Bob. Crawford has ran out of opponents and they still have plenty potential opponents

        4. True or False - Crawford should be the favorite if these two face off in 2021

        Spence won't be the same after the car wreck and Porter's pivots gave Spence all he can handle.

        5. True or False - Winner of this fight should be P4P #1 fighter in the world

        Along with Canelo. Two #1s.

        6. True or False - Top Rank should just release Crawford now instead of waiting until October 2021 when it expires

        No. I want for everyone to see who Bob really is.

        7. Trueor False - This is the fight you are looking forward to the most

        8. True or False - This fight will happen in 2021

        Cinco de Mayweather

        9. Bonus Question - Not a true or false, but will you be purchasing this PPV for $75 bucks if you live stateside?

        Fuсk I look like putting money in these nіggas pockets when I know all the illegal stream websites?
        That's how I see it.

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          #5
          Originally posted by KTFOKING
          Let's play a true or false game involving these two fighters.

          1. True or False - Spence deserves the bigger share
          True. Errol puts more asses in the seats & its an asses in seats game.

          2. True or False - Crawford claims to be more proven, and he deserves the 60/40 split
          False. You can debate who's more proven all day towards one guy or the other if you want to, but to me its irrelevant in this situation. Asses in seats matter most.

          You can have leverage with a more proven record or a belt or a novelty angle or other things, but when the difference isn't THAT big &/or the leverage is minimal or disputable asses in seats rule the day.

          3. True or False - Spence is avoiding the fight
          False. I think very few high level boxers, like 99% of the guys we talk about daily here, avoid fights. I think its deeper than that. There is business, promotional & their own specific goals that are at the front of their list more than some guy calling them out. There are only a finite number of guys you'll ever be able to fight & your career only lasts so long. You gotta maximize your own short time in this game not help out some other guys career or even give fans what they may want if it doesn't line up with whats best for you.

          All that said I don't think boxing SHOULD work like it does. I think there should be tiers of fighters at all levels of the game who can only fight guys on that tier with them so world class guys like Errol & Bud would only have x other world class guys they could fight so the fans would get the best fights much more often & worst case would get high level fights all the time.

          4. True or False - Crawford should be the favorite if these two face off in 2021
          True. Right now at this interesting time of talking about this fight when Bud had a impressive stoppage of Brook & many of us are still curious about where Errol is post-crash & if he's the same guy I think you gotta favor Bud. Post-Danny it could go back to the pick em many had it at.

          Randomly Danny is at +300 at the sportsbook & I don't think thats an awful bet with the questions on Errol.

          5. True or False - Winner of this fight should be P4P #1 fighter in the world
          Neither. P4P is some sci fi fantasy circle jerk bs. It could be argued the winner would be #1 or you could still say its Canelo or that 105lb guy who's 54-0 or whatever. Its a very subjective thing, but mostly a bs thing & fewer folks should care about it I'd argue.

          6. True or False - Top Rank should just release Crawford now instead of waiting until October 2021 when it expires
          True, assuming they are losing money like Bob is saying & don't see a way to make money with him. Its better for TR to drop him if thats the case.

          False if he's bsing or has a fight that can make money in the meantime.

          Only TR & Bob know if the answer is True or False I guess.

          7. True or False - This is the fight you are looking forward to the most
          False. It was & it might be again, but right now idk if Errol is the same Errol. If he looks good vs Danny it'll probably become the fight I most wanna see again. If he doesn't look like the same Errol this fight loses appeal to me & I'd argue the questions on Errol has already lowered the appeal.

          8. True or False - This fight will happen in 2021
          I have as much or as lil insight as anyone else on this one, but just cuz Boxing is Boxing I'd have to lean False. Boxing marinates fights to a disgusting degree or they wait too long & fook things up.

          Like I said in another post come New Years Bud vs Danny might be the fight folks wanna see. And Errol is talking about a comeback fight vs Jeffrey Horn.

          9. Bonus Question - Not a true or false, but will you be purchasing this PPV for $75 bucks if you live stateside?
          I'm buying PPV's lower level than this one. Hell in 1992 I bought the Olympic Boxing coverage that was on PPV ffs. Take my money boxing people!!!

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          • ralex
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            #6
            1. True or False - Spence deserves the bigger share
            TRUE

            2. True or False - Crawford claims to be more proven, and he deserves the 60/40 split
            FALSE

            3. True or False - Spence is avoiding the fight
            FALSE

            4. True or False - Crawford should be the favorite if these two face off in 2021
            FALSE

            5. True or False - Winner of this fight should be P4P #1 fighter in the world
            TRUE

            6. True or False - Top Rank should just release Crawford now instead of waiting until October 2021 when it expires
            FALSE

            7. True or False - This is the fight you are looking forward to the most
            TRUE

            8. True or False - This fight will happen in 2021
            FALSE

            9. Bonus Question - Not a true or false, but will you be purchasing this PPV for $75 bucks if you live stateside?YES. I’d pay $100

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              #7
              Originally posted by KTFOKING
              Let's play a true or false game involving these two fighters.

              1. True or False - Spence deserves the bigger share

              2. True or False - Crawford claims to be more proven, and he deserves the 60/40 split

              3. True or False - Spence is avoiding the fight

              4. True or False - Crawford should be the favorite if these two face off in 2021

              5. True or False - Winner of this fight should be P4P #1 fighter in the world

              6. True or False - Top Rank should just release Crawford now instead of waiting until October 2021 when it expires

              7. True or False - This is the fight you are looking forward to the most

              8. True or False - This fight will happen in 2021

              9. Bonus Question - Not a true or false, but will you be purchasing this PPV for $75 bucks if you live stateside?
              1. False. It is 50/50. Spence has two belts yes and bigger scalps in terms of prime Brook, Porter, and soon to be Garcia, but Crawford also has a belt and he is p4p#1, and is a three weight champion.

              2. False. They are about equal. Crawford has had many more title fights than Spence, but Spence has beaten the better pedegree fighters. I'd say they are about equal.

              3. False. Neither is avoiding the fight. They have both stated their career plan and both said the exact same thing. Spence said he wants Manny and then Crawford immediately after, Crawford said he wants Manny and immediately Spence after. They are both trying to secure the Manny fight because whoever gets and wins it becomes the A side for their inevitable showdown.

              4. False. Assuming the accident hasn't destroyed Spence, then it is a 50/50 fight, which is why everyone is so obsessed with it. Spence is getting better and better with experience though, so Bud needs to be careful.

              5. True. Unquestionably the winner will be p4p #1, but it also depends how they win. The reason Canelo's status as p4p 1 is in dispute is because many feel he lost either one or both Golovkin fights. His victories in his toughest fights have not been convincing. So same here, if the victory is legitimately in dispute then it will be hard to secure the top spot.

              6. False. I understand the sentiment but I want the fight to be for all the marbles. Top Rank controls the WBO along with Golden Boy and Frank Warren. If Crawford leaves Top Rank and goes to pbc, there is a good chance Crawford loses that belt outside of the ring.

              7. True. But there is also Charlo v Canelo, Benevides v Plant, Teofimo v Davis. Crawford/Spence is the creme dela creme though.

              8.True, provided Spence beats Garcia and doesn't show any accident related vulnerabilities in the fight with Garcia.

              9. I don't live in the US, it will probably be free in South Africa, only problem is it will likely play at 06:00am but I will wake up for it.

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              • KTFOKING
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                #8
                Originally posted by Doubledagger
                1. False. It is 50/50. Spence has two belts yes and bigger scalps in terms of prime Brook, Porter, and soon to be Garcia, but Crawford also has a belt and he is p4p#1, and is a three weight champion.

                2. False. They are about equal. Crawford has had many more title fights than Spence, but Spence has beaten the better pedegree fighters. I'd say they are about equal.

                3. False. Neither is avoiding the fight. They have both stated their career plan and both said the exact same thing. Spence said he wants Manny and then Crawford immediately after, Crawford said he wants Manny and immediately Spence after. They are both trying to secure the Manny fight because whoever gets and wins it becomes the A side for their inevitable showdown.

                4. False. Assuming the accident hasn't destroyed Spence, then it is a 50/50 fight, which is why everyone is so obsessed with it. Spence is getting better and better with experience though, so Bud needs to be careful.

                5. True. Unquestionably the winner will be p4p #1, but it also depends how they win. The reason Canelo's status as p4p 1 is in dispute is because many feel he lost either one or both Golovkin fights. His victories in his toughest fights have not been convincing. So same here, if the victory is legitimately in dispute then it will be hard to secure the top spot.

                6. False. I understand the sentiment but I want the fight to be for all the marbles. Top Rank controls the WBO along with Golden Boy and Frank Warren. If Crawford leaves Top Rank and goes to pbc, there is a good chance Crawford loses that belt outside of the ring.

                7. True. But there is also Charlo v Canelo, Benevides v Plant, Teofimo v Davis. Crawford/Spence is the creme dela creme though.

                8.True, provided Spence beats Garcia and doesn't show any accident related vulnerabilities in the fight with Garcia.

                9. I don't live in the US, it will probably be free in South Africa, only problem is it will likely play at 06:00am but I will wake up for it.
                Nice breakdown and answers!

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by KTFOKING
                  Let's play a true or false game involving these two fighters.

                  1. True or False - Spence deserves the bigger share

                  2. True or False - Crawford claims to be more proven, and he deserves the 60/40 split

                  3. True or False - Spence is avoiding the fight

                  4. True or False - Crawford should be the favorite if these two face off in 2021

                  5. True or False - Winner of this fight should be P4P #1 fighter in the world

                  6. True or False - Top Rank should just release Crawford now instead of waiting until October 2021 when it expires

                  7. True or False - This is the fight you are looking forward to the most

                  8. True or False - This fight will happen in 2021

                  9. Bonus Question - Not a true or false, but will you be purchasing this PPV for $75 bucks if you live stateside?
                  1. True
                  2. False (if we're talking Welterweight)
                  3. False
                  4. I personally favor Crawford but it's a true 50/50 (right now)
                  5. True
                  6. True
                  7. True
                  8. I think it happens
                  9. ABSOLUTELY

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                    #10
                    1. True or False - Spence deserves the bigger share.

                    They have each earned about the same to this point in their careers. It's a 50/50 split IMO.

                    2. True or False - Crawford claims to be more proven, and he deserves the 60/40 split

                    He is not more proven. I would say Spence's win over Porter holds a slight edge over any of Crawford's wins. If he beats Garcia, that's another.

                    3. True or False - Spence is avoiding the fight

                    I really don't know. I suspect Haymon is directing him what to say and calling the shots on his next opponent.

                    4. True or False - Crawford should be the favorite if these two face off in 2021

                    It's a matter of opinion, but I feel Crawford is the more skilled of the two.

                    5. True or False - Winner of this fight should be P4P #1 fighter in the world

                    6. True or False - Top Rank should just release Crawford now instead of waiting until October 2021 when it expires

                    7. True or False - This is the fight you are looking forward to the most

                    8. True or False - This fight will happen in 2021

                    Don't know, one can only hope.

                    9. Bonus Question - Not a true or false, but will you be purchasing this PPV for $75 bucks if you live stateside?

                    Yes, I would pay $75 to see this fight, regardless of undercards.

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