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  • _Rexy_
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    #31
    Originally posted by champion4ever
    The PBC is both ripe and prime for a Terence Crawford; If, only he just heeds the call. Al Haymon is a helluva loyal to his fighters; Especially his African American ones.

    He would never rip or throw Bud under the bus the way Bob Arum did. Bud needs to go where he would feel wanted, welcomed and appreciated.

    However, if Terence does decide to stay at Top Rank then he should demand a public apology from Bob Arum.
    Bud making 5-6m a fight though. Rip me off like that any day.

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    • Inspired
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      #32
      Originally posted by _Rexy_
      so BJS wasn't the WBO160 champ? Canelo isn't still holding 2 belts at 160? Lack of ticket revenue means less money all over the world, not just in the UK. Not sure what that has to do with anything.

      And yeah, Haney's young. Since signing with Matchroom he's fought a whos who list ofL Antonio Moran, Zaur Abdullaev, Alfredo Santiago, and Yuriorkis Gamboa. This is according to you, Bob Arums fault, Mauricio Sulaimans fault, Al Haymon's fault, basically everyone but his promoter, Eddie Hearns fault. But you're right, at least he's a 2x email champ!

      At least Andrade has fought better competition since signing to Matchroom though! Who doesn't remember him fighting legends such as Walter Kautondokwa or Artur Akavov?


      and people ***** about Crawford haha

      1) so BJS wasn't the WBO160 champ? Canelo isn't still holding 2 belts at 160?

      Canelo hasnt been a MW since the Jacobs fight.
      BJS has been a champion at SMW since he was at Queensbury

      I mean
      Canelo vs Jacobs has happened
      Canelo vs Smith is about to happen

      so Eddie's delivering one way or another, but Andrade hasn't got the big fight yet. That's mainly because BJS has been a SMW, GGG had a tune up and a mandatory...and now due to the lack of gate revenue it doesnt look like GGG vs Andrade is happening . Hopefully mid to late 2021.

      2) Lack of ticket revenue means less money all over the world, not just in the UK. Not sure what that has to do with anything.


      it's why BJS vs Callum Smith didn't happen as a unification bout. The money wasnt there.

      3) Haney's fights were for the mandatory position to Loma. Did he or eddie know wbc will magically create a new belt just for ducking? of course it's bobs fault, bob applied for the franchise belt to duck haney. that's just a fact.
      what sort of bs is that? even worse you think this is eddie hearn's fault.

      4) Why would you mention Walter Kautondokwa? once bjs was stripped, this was the title fight. there was no choice in that. Walter was ranked number 2
      Akavov was ranked number 8. He went the distance with BJS.
      Keeler was a mandatory
      sulecki also ranked number 8.

      they may not be marquee dream fights n all, but they're still credible wins.

      Jermall Charlo vs Brandon Adams, Hogan...
      ???

      it reminds me of when you yanks were also crying about Deryvanchenko back when Jacobs was fighting him

      'but but da no caneloz doe'

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      where's liam williams? but andrade vs liam williams will also be classed as a **** fight by you idiots.
      Sulecki is ranked number 5 with the wbc

      you guys have no respect for boxing.

      5) eddie is just a promoter, he cant force anyone to fight the other. I'msure he'd prefer if GGG just stepped in with Andrade...but GGG has his own plans. If he wants to duck Andrade, how is that Eddie's fault?
      if canelo wants to avoid BJS for whatever reason, how is that Eddie's fault?

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        #33
        to answer the OP
        no, Eddie doesnt have the WWs required.
        Crawford needs to get with the pbc. Doesn't matter if it's porter, thurman, garcia or Spence. Those are the fights they'll have lined up for him.

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          #34
          Originally posted by DaNeutral.
          His best bet is to sign with the PBC or do a Canelo and be a free agent. Best chance of landing the Spence fight is to do it on Fox or Showtime under PBC promotion. Although there is no guarantee master Al gets brave enough to allow Spence fade him.

          Hearn is a good promoter but he won't get that Spence fight for Bud.
          He would have to sign with PBC. Or at the very least give Al an option on his next fight.

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            #35
            Hearn and DAZN already struggling with overpaying fighters who can't draw in membership, it makes no sense that they will add another overpayed fighter who can't draw flies...

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              #36
              Originally posted by Inspired
              1) so BJS wasn't the WBO160 champ? Canelo isn't still holding 2 belts at 160?

              Canelo hasnt been a MW since the Jacobs fight.
              BJS has been a champion at SMW since he was at Queensbury

              I mean
              Canelo vs Jacobs has happened
              Canelo vs Smith is about to happen

              so Eddie's delivering one way or another, but Andrade hasn't got the big fight yet. That's mainly because BJS has been a SMW, GGG had a tune up and a mandatory...and now due to the lack of gate revenue it doesnt look like GGG vs Andrade is happening . Hopefully mid to late 2021.

              2) Lack of ticket revenue means less money all over the world, not just in the UK. Not sure what that has to do with anything.


              it's why BJS vs Callum Smith didn't happen as a unification bout. The money wasnt there.

              3) Haney's fights were for the mandatory position to Loma. Did he or eddie know wbc will magically create a new belt just for ducking? of course it's bobs fault, bob applied for the franchise belt to duck haney. that's just a fact.
              what sort of bs is that? even worse you think this is eddie hearn's fault.

              4) Why would you mention Walter Kautondokwa? once bjs was stripped, this was the title fight. there was no choice in that. Walter was ranked number 2
              Akavov was ranked number 8. He went the distance with BJS.
              Keeler was a mandatory
              sulecki also ranked number 8.

              they may not be marquee dream fights n all, but they're still credible wins.

              Jermall Charlo vs Brandon Adams, Hogan...
              ???

              it reminds me of when you yanks were also crying about Deryvanchenko back when Jacobs was fighting him

              'but but da no caneloz doe'

              View the latest boxing rankings. The only site to list the top 15 ratings in the every weight division, including mandatories, boxer's records & country.


              where's liam williams? but andrade vs liam williams will also be classed as a **** fight by you idiots.
              Sulecki is ranked number 5 with the wbc

              you guys have no respect for boxing.

              5) eddie is just a promoter, he cant force anyone to fight the other. I'msure he'd prefer if GGG just stepped in with Andrade...but GGG has his own plans. If he wants to duck Andrade, how is that Eddie's fault?
              if canelo wants to avoid BJS for whatever reason, how is that Eddie's fault?

              you're right, we have no respect for boxing. Meanwhile you just wrote a novel fellating a promoter. But yeah, we have no respect for boxing. Akavov being ranked #8 by an ABC org is good for you? **** off lmao Sulecki was also #8? Lmfao so we are justifying a champ going over the top 10 list of potential challengers and going "Lets take a look at the bottom." i mean, it's bad enough other champs don't get ranked so by being #8 what you're saying is he was the 12th best middleweight. Great scalp.

              And if Canelo hasn't been a middleweight champ since the Jacobs fight, maybe you should go take a look at who has the WBA, WBC and Ring belts at Middleweight.

              Haney has made 3 defenses of his fake WBC belt, so no they weren't to get a shot at Loma lol.



              good call on Liam Williams though. Andrade's resume is so baby**** soft that Williams would be his best name.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Inspired
                to answer the OP
                no, Eddie doesnt have the WWs required.
                Crawford needs to get with the pbc. Doesn't matter if it's porter, thurman, garcia or Spence. Those are the fights they'll have lined up for him.
                I'd say it matters. I'd be ****ing pissed if Crawford had to sign with PBC only for us to see him fight Danny ****ing Garcia

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by _Rexy_
                  I'd say it matters. I'd be ****ing pissed if Crawford had to sign with PBC only for us to see him fight Danny ****ing Garcia
                  fk off...crawford vs danny garcia is a class fight.
                  danny's never been stopped, has he been knocked down before? and he can punch
                  that would be crawford's biggest test outside of Spence jr.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by _Rexy_
                    Bud making 5-6m a fight though. Rip me off like that any day.
                    I know but Bob says that kind of guarantee is losing him millions of dollars in lost revenue.

                    Which was the reason why he talked down to him by saying that if he is unwilling to promote himself like other black fighters do then who the fuck needs him?

                    In other words, he is saying that Crawford is a tough sell to the crossover mainstream casual fan while losing his company a lot of money in the process.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by champion4ever
                      I know but Bob says that kind of guarantee is losing him millions of dollars in lost revenue.

                      Which was the reason why he talked down to him by saying that if he is unwilling to promote himself like other black fighters do then who the fuck needs him?

                      In other words, he is saying that Crawford is a tough sell to the crossover mainstream casual fan while losing his company a lot of money in the process.
                      which is true, he's not being ripped off. Bob has always spoken that way, he pulls no punches with how he feels. He's been in the business too long. He is losing money on Bud. Loma too. Losing money on everyone right now during the Pandemic. Bud is a tough sell because he's quiet and from Nebraska. I like that he's a quiet family dude, but casuals don't care for that ****. Bud being a quiet dude is the same as Loma not speaking English to them. Only die hards like us care about things like boxing skills or good fights.

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