Where do you currently rank Wilder in the HW division?

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  • BangEM
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    #1

    Where do you currently rank Wilder in the HW division?

    Even with the belt - I ranked him as 5 based on resume since he's a paper champion. And after Fury beat him to a pulp with those pillowfists - I had him at 11.

    However, with his current shenanigans and how delusional he sounds based on his new interview where he refused to acknowledge the fact that his eardrum was busted and attributed the bleeding to scratches caused by the nails - he has been moved to 15.
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    Originally posted by BangEM
    Even with the belt - I ranked him as 5 based on resume since he's a paper champion. And after Fury beat him to a pulp with those pillowfists - I had him at 11.

    However, with his current shenanigans and how delusional he sounds based on his new interview where he refused to acknowledge the fact that his eardrum was busted and attributed the bleeding to scratches caused by the nails - he has been moved to 15.
    Nah his eardrums are fine. He was checked and they his ear got cut.

    Wilder is third now because I still think he KTFO every heavyweight that isn't Fury or Joshua easily, including Usyk.

    He could still lucky punch Joshua coz Joshua aint got no stamina and has very weak recuperation genes he takes forever to recover after being hurt.

    To beat Fury though he needs a new trainer and he needs to come in at his natural weight and not try to unnecessarily bulk up for no good reason like he did the second fight.

    His corner was trash in both fights and showed their total a d utter lack of knowing shieeet about boxing in both fights.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Doubledagger
      Nah his eardrums are fine. He was checked and they his ear got cut.

      Wilder is third now because I still think he KTFO every heavyweight that isn't Fury or Joshua easily, including Usyk.

      He could still lucky punch Joshua coz Joshua aint got no stamina and has very weak recuperation genes he takes forever to recover after being hurt.

      To beat Fury though he needs a new trainer and he needs to come in at his natural weight and not try to unnecessarily bulk up for no good reason like he did the second fight.

      His corner was trash in both fights and showed their total a d utter lack of knowing shieeet about boxing in both fights.
      There are no bones in the ear. So how did he get a cut there? He's not telling the truth - his eardrum was busted hence he lost his legs and balance.

      Wilder can't take a punch and almost all the top contenders punch harder than Fury or anyone Wilder has fought. So why do you think he'll land before they do? The guy gets hurt by slow check hooks for fccck sake.

      I need to see him beat Whyte or Ruiz or Hunter before I can put him in the top 5.

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        #4
        1) Fury
        2) Joshua
        3) Wilder

        I have Joshua ahead because AJ is a world champion and Wilder isn't.

        Just because Wilder lost to the best fighter in the world doesn't mean that he'll lose to guys like Whyte & Povetkin

        You could even argue that he's #2.

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          #5
          Originally posted by denium
          1) Fury
          2) Joshua
          3) Wilder

          I have Joshua ahead because AJ is a world champion and Wilder isn't.

          Just because Wilder lost to the best fighter in the world doesn't mean that he'll lose to guys like Whyte & Povetkin

          You could even argue that he's #2.
          How many boxers in the legit top-10 (Ortiz isn't a legit top-10, his biggest win is a journeyman) has he beaten?

          Top-5 based on resume:

          1a. AJ
          1b. Fury
          3. Povetkin
          4. Ruiz
          5. Dillian Whyte

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            #6
            Originally posted by BangEM
            How many boxers in the legit top-10 (Ortiz isn't a legit top-10, his biggest win is a journeyman) has he beaten?

            Top-5 based on resume:

            1a. AJ
            1b. Fury
            3. Povetkin
            4. Ruiz
            5. Dillian Whyte
            I hear what you're saying, but i just think that Wilder would knock these guys spark out. That right hand is a serious weapon, and only Fury has the size and skills to neuter it.

            Fury might well have ruined him though, i need to see him fight again to see where he's at.

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              #7
              Originally posted by BangEM
              How many boxers in the legit top-10 (Ortiz isn't a legit top-10, his biggest win is a journeyman) has he beaten?

              Top-5 based on resume:

              1a. AJ
              1b. Fury
              3. Povetkin
              4. Ruiz
              5. Dillian Whyte
              Well **** buddy, first you have to tell us who is and isn't legitimate before we can rank them.

              Outside of his recent Whyte stomping, what makes you say Pov's fought a legitimate top ten HW and won in the past decade?

              I'm not even arguing for Wilder, I am curious how you placed the unified, Joshua KO'ing, Ruiz, who has consistently fought top tens that are consistently still top tens long after he fights them, under, a guy who doesn't fight fighters while they're doing well and has never won a title fight? Based on resume.

              That Joshua win trumps everything Pov's ever done and then some. Pov's wins are more akin to Andy's W over Dimitrenko.


              Ruiz >>> Pov

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                #8
                Originally posted by denium
                I hear what you're saying, but i just think that Wilder would knock these guys spark out. That right hand is a serious weapon, and only Fury has the size and skills to neuter it.

                Fury might well have ruined him though, i need to see him fight again to see where he's at.
                Boxing isn’t fought based on assumption - it’s fought in the ring.

                Also, there’s no sample size to know if Wilder can spark any of these guys since he has NEVER sparked anyone decent. Sparking bums is different from sparking decent boxers with a pulse and there’s a reason why boxers’ KO ratio decreases as they step up their level of opposition. And even before Fury, I’ve always maintained that Povetkin, Whyte and Ruiz would beat Wilder comfortably.

                Anyway, Wilder isn’t damaged because I don’t believe in the dented skull fallacy. Fury broke his jaw and eardrum and a lot of boxers have suffered both and come back without being affect much.

                When your jaw get shifted - it also shifts the placement of the bones on one side of your face with swelling around there. And that’s why Wilder’s face looks like it had a dent there.

                Both won’t make any difference since Wilder can’t take a punch.

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                  #9
                  Not sure where I rank Wilder, but I have to say that the 50lb suit that whooped his ass should be the #1Flyweight in the world

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                    #10
                    1. A.J
                    2 Fury
                    3. Hrgovic
                    4. Usyk
                    5. Joyce
                    6. Wilder
                    7. DDD
                    8. Povetkin
                    9. Pulev
                    10. Whyte

                    I’m basing this off who in real time is best suited to get more wins more then not in an actual fight . I’d place Wilder 6th at this point and that’s being generous because there’s other fighters beyond here like Mahkmudov who is a bad match for him to .

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