Why are so many posters on here against seeing the undisputed HW fight?

[Richard]

I don't see what Wilder has to do with a potential Fury-Joshua for undisputed match unless you're worried Wilder will win.

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At the end of the day most boxing fans want the best fighting the best. At the moment in the heavyweight division its Fury v Joshua. Fury and Joshua are better skilled operators than Wilder is .

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I was all for TF ducking Wilder the whole time he was talking Joshua. Kayabel isn't Joshua and if there's an in between fight, a fight with Fury before he fights Joshua, that should be Wilder not some bum no one gives a **** about.

Fair comment as the Wilder fight makes more sense than Kayabel and Fury still sees Wilder as a risk .By all accounts I think Wilder is the one still more wary of Fury though. Hence from reading stuff kept putting back the dates for the Fury fight despite Fury offering several fight dates. I get the impression the potential fight with Joshua eg spring of next year Fury wants a low risk fight so he can be in the best physical shape possible for the fight of his life against Joshua.

Why would I believe the team Fury didn't work with because he couldn't find an agreement both sides liked all of a sudden is going to put together a fight in less time than it took for him to agree to fighting the team he did get along with? Because he said let me fight this bum then the Joshua fight will happen? **** off ya flat skulled limey prick.

Cut the insults .Isnt a good vibe and lowers you. A constructive civilised argument is far healthier than trading insults at each other like schoolboys in a playground. Weve all got good and bad in us .Lets all try to keep to the good path which is always the stronger force in the universe. Hence noone is perfect in this world. All we can do is try though. Its why I love this sport. Mirrors life. Always try to improve.

[Toffee]

Arum actually just cleared it up in his interview on IFL TV: he said Fury isn't obligated to fight Wilder again and the contract is clear. And the only reason why Fury might fight Wilder is if Pulev beats AJ, since Fury vs Wilder would be a bigger fight than Fury vs Pulev.

Not quite what he said.

If Pulev beats Joshua, then Joshua has a rematch clause which would tie him up.

Then Fury would go to Wilder as the biggest fight they can make without Joshua.

[Toffee]

I haven't seen many people who don't want Fury v Joshua?

That said, I don't think it happens twice in 2021.

Fury won't fight until Feb/March and I don't see him going straight into June/July and December fights against Joshua.

If we're lucky then we might get one - in November/December. But plenty of twists and turns on the way and lots of negotiations.

And still we don't have an answer as to how you do this fight as a co-broadcast between a PPV platform and a subscription channel.

My gut feel is that it will happen much later, when their current network deals have ended, and both fighters are past their prime.

[Richard]

I haven't seen many people who don't want Fury v Joshua?

That said, I don't think it happens twice in 2021.

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I can see it happening though if Fury/Joshua wins their next 2 fights and Wilder doesnt get in the way.

Money talks at the end of the day and the Arabs are offering millions for one of the fights to be staged over in Saudi Arabia as your most likely aware.

[BangEM]

Not quite what he said.

If Pulev beats Joshua, then Joshua has a rematch clause which would tie him up.

Then Fury would go to Wilder as the biggest fight they can make without Joshua.

I didn't really hear about the rematch clause, so you might be right.

If AJ can't beat Pulev - he probably needs to retire because he's ruined. I'd even pick the 2015 novice AJ that beat Kevin Johnson to beat Pulev. Pulev is just there for the money, not to win or take unnecessary punishment.

[BangEM]

I think Fury wont retire for a bit though as last time I heard stated he wants to carry on for a bit longer. No doubt needs the money.

As for Fury v Joshua if it goes ahead its going to be absolutely massive .I think the way Fury dismantled Wilder raised his statue and I certainly didnt expect such a good performance from him. The true litmus test though for me to how good Fury really is will be the Joshua fight. I know he fought Klitcshko but he was past his prime.

Fury just say things for the sake of it. He already said he's not interested in fighting any of the contenders and said only him, Wilder and Chisora are left from his era. So I don't see him staying in the sport for more than 2-3 yrs.

Fury vs AJ would be the career defining fight for the both of them and would show where they rank amongst the greats. AJ needs to win, to put all the doubters in their place and to get the respect he deserves. And Fury needs to win solidify himself as the best of this era.

Financially, both also need the fight and the massive money they would make will last for generations. The figures are enormous and it's around the Mayweather vs Pacman money. And they will most likely do it twice or 3 times. Both would probably earn at least £100million apiece for the first fight (it would be more if they were to fight in the middle east).

[Marchegiano]

At the end of the day most boxing fans want the best fighting the best. At the moment in the heavyweight division its Fury v Joshua. Fury and Joshua are better skilled operators than Wilder is .

I'm not saying Wilder's got a snowballs chance in hell. Dude has given me no ammo. All he's said is Fury cheated. Which, cool, if I take him at value, fine, but, what has Wilder done to ensure he can win? Seems to me if, and that's a strong if, Wilder was cheated then Fury did it right and got out with it clean and can do it again in a new form.

Fair comment as the Wilder fight makes more sense than Kayabel and Fury still sees Wilder as a risk .By all accounts I think Wilder is the one still more wary of Fury though. Hence from reading stuff kept putting back the dates for the Fury fight despite Fury offering several fight dates. I get the impression the potential fight with Joshua eg spring of next year Fury wants a low risk fight so he can be in the best physical shape possible for the fight of his life against Joshua.

I'm sure he is but Fury didn't say he's going to **** around with bums, he said let me get free so I can go after Joshua, we all said okay bud, then he gets Agit while talking about Joshua ain't ready. Well, ****, the **** difference did fighting Agit make to me? You mean to say you got one fight then you're gonna try for Joshua? Mother ****er we done had that and the one fight was better.

Cut the insults .Isnt a good vibe and lowers you. A constructive civilised argument is far healthier than trading insults at each other like schoolboys in a playground. Weve all got good and bad in us .Lets all try to keep to the good path which is always the stronger force in the universe. Hence noone is perfect in this world. All we can do is try though. Its why I love this sport. Mirrors life. Always try to improve.

Apologies, I only try to be funny not actually offensive.

[BoZz]

We do but it's the same old story, Joshy has to take care of the 50+ year old mandatory challangers first, can't wait for his fight against good old Poolev

[BangEM]

We do but it's the same old story, Joshy has to take care of the 50+ year old mandatory challangers first, can't wait for his fight against good old Poolev

Forgot to put yer racist **** arse on block. Thanks for reminding me.

[The Big Dunn]

You have an unhealthy obsession with gay people. And it's ironic that in my neck of the woods, your name, "The Big Dunn" means "The Big Battyboi". LMAO.

Then it's not shocking since you're American and 50% of American men are either gay or on the DL.

I notice you didn’t name anyone. Confirms you made stuff up as usual.