High ring IQ, 74'' reach, switch stance, athletic, mean : Bud is a problem

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  • Boxing-1013
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    #11
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    This is why they make showcase fights. Because guys like you fall for it hook, line, and sinker.
    Canelo fan chiming in to hate on Crawford, right on cue lol

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #12
      Do you understand the concept of time?

      Brook tonight and the Brook of 3 years ago are not the same fighter.

      Certainly not 6 years ago when he won the title off Porter.

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        #13
        Originally posted by BillyBoxing
        I agree that Brook looked shot in there.

        My thread is about how much Bud is a problem, and tonight I realized how big Bud is as a WW next to Brook.

        Bud looked as big, longer than Spence.

        I didn't learn much other than that.
        He rides Canelo like it's his favorite horse, don't bother. Canelo fans will down Bud all day and night, no matter the reason, or if it has any validity

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          #14
          Originally posted by BillyBoxing
          Yep, Bud would give him serious problem IMO
          I see it differently

          Floyd schooled the last great southpaw boxer-puncher he fought

          In Floyd’s long career he only truly had a hard time with in the pocket pressure guys

          Spence does better vs Floyd than Crawford could

          Bud would play the boxing game with the master and get a lesson

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            #15
            The problem for Crawford is I really have no idea who his number 1 contender is right now at 147. The Spence fight looked like his legacy fight, but I don't think Spence will be the same. Hope I'm wrong but we will see. Spence also is on that Kovalev path anyway it seems, where he isn't really taking care of himself like he should be.

            For Crawford to really be 'special' he may need to beat one good guy at 147, then grab a belt or two at 154, and then try and beat whoever the top guy is at 160. Tough tasks but that's what makes you a legend. I think he can do it.

            I don't see him getting a ton of credit if he clears out 147 right now. Everyone will just say Spence is shot if they fight and Bud wins clearly; and the other guys there are just good fighters, no one is great there.

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              #16
              He's a laid back guy....but I really wish he'd talk more. These guys just go along not fighting him, he needs to make some noise to make these fights happen

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                #17
                Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                I see it differently

                Floyd schooled the last great southpaw boxer-puncher he fought

                In Floyd’s long career he only truly had a hard time with in the pocket pressure guys

                Spence does better vs Floyd than Crawford could

                Bud would play the boxing game with the master and get a lesson
                You mean Manny?

                Bud is a whole different fighter style wise, not a blown up batamweight.


                "pocket pressure guy", but who is the best pure slick boxer that Floyd ever fought? Zab?

                Floyd never struggled vs pure elite boxers because he never fought one.
                That's why this fight is intriguing. Floyd loves to have the control with a superior reach, athleticism...he's not having it with Bud.

                HO Canelo is not a pure slick boxer and he definitely wasn't when he faced Floyd at 23 and drained at 152, you can't be called slick/pure boxer when you are that much cement footed.

                Canelo has gotten slicker since but...
                Last edited by BillyBoxing; 11-15-2020, 01:22 AM.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Boxing-1013
                  The problem for Crawford is I really have no idea who his number 1 contender is right now at 147. The Spence fight looked like his legacy fight, but I don't think Spence will be the same. Hope I'm wrong but we will see. Spence also is on that Kovalev path anyway it seems, where he isn't really taking care of himself like he should be.

                  For Crawford to really be 'special' he may need to beat one good guy at 147, then grab a belt or two at 154, and then try and beat whoever the top guy is at 160. Tough tasks but that's what makes you a legend. I think he can do it.

                  I don't see him getting a ton of credit if he clears out 147 right now. Everyone will just say Spence is shot if they fight and Bud wins clearly; and the other guys there are just good fighters, no one is great there.
                  What I would love next is Bud vs Porter.

                  Porter is not taking a dive.

                  Porter said he wants it, rather fight Bud than rematch Spence.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by BillyBoxing
                    What I would love next is Bud vs Porter.

                    Porter is not taking a dive.

                    Porter said he wants it, rather fight Bud than rematch Spence.
                    That would be a great fight for all of us to see the level. Porter lies down for no one and would make it tough.

                    I honestly think Bud outclasses him and wins easy and maybe stops him late, but I've been wrong before. Depends on if Porter's size and physicality can really affect the fight.

                    Shame about the Spence-Bud fight. It has just lost its appeal to me because I have no idea what Spence is right now. Maybe if he shines against Danny that fight will make more sense.

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                      #20
                      Im 6'3 and Im not sure mine is much longer than that. Is it still measured finger tip to finger tip across your shoulders? I think mine is 78 and I have 8 inches on him in height. My dad is about Buds height with crazy reach, he can touch my chest and Im a good two inches from him with my finger tips. He looks like an ape kind off fckn hands touching his knees, lol.
                      Last edited by Sun_Tzu; 11-15-2020, 01:28 AM.

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