Should Canelo have more losses than Loma?

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  • Thuglife Nelo
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    #21
    Originally posted by BillyBoxing
    I'm not insinuating that boxing has not been fair to Loma but most likely that Boxing has been VERY generous to Canelo.

    It does matter if cards are fishy because cards make the winner of the fight.
    Canelo had been some weird cards behind him (Floyd draw, Byrd card ect...).
    This thread could have 100 pages it wont change the fact, since you brought up Loma, that Canelo has never lost the way Loma did, meaning throwing away a complete first half nor losing to a Salido in those manners.

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    • deathofaclown
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      #22
      I had him clearly losing to GGG in the first fight

      2nd could’ve gone either way, same as the Lara fight

      So he should definitely have 2 losses at least, could be 4. Can’t speak on his draw in Mexico.

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      • BillyBoxing
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        #23
        Originally posted by Al Broker
        This thread could have 100 pages it wont change the fact, since you brought up Loma, that Canelo has never lost the way Loma did, meaning throwing away a complete first half nor losing to a Salido in those manners.
        Yeah he did throw away the whole fight vs Floyd, being tagged for twelve rounds and not changing anything nor pressing the action.

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        • boliodogs
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          #24
          I didn't see his 5th pro fight but if those who did see it thought he lost then maybe he did. Mayweather beat him easily of course. I thought GGG beat him both fights. I scored the first fight 8 rounds to 4 and the second fight 7 rounds to 5. I thought Canelo beat both Lara and Trout in close fights.

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          • Thuglife Nelo
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            #25
            Originally posted by BillyBoxing
            Yeah he did throw away the whole fight vs Floyd, being tagged for twelve rounds and not changing anything nor pressing the action.
            No he didn’t. Canelo gave up Rounds 4-9 in that it was impossible to give swing rounds. Not like Loma of course by not swinging... Rounds 1-3 (swing rounds) Al Bernstein and Paulie were impressed with the fight. Rounds 9+ swing rounds Canelo pressed the gas but was worn out while Floyd finished his rhythm. I gave Canelo rounds 2,3,11-12. Canelo was unifying, 23, and didn’t look like any of Floyd’s previous opponents while TRYING to box.

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            • Thuglife Nelo
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              #26
              Originally posted by boliodogs
              I didn't see his 5th pro fight but if those who did see it thought he lost then maybe he did. Mayweather beat him easily of course. I thought GGG beat him both fights. I scored the first fight 8 rounds to 4 and the second fight 7 rounds to 5. I thought Canelo beat both Lara and Trout in close fights.
              At the end of the day Canelo haters have to cry that boxing isn’t fair to Loma or GGG. I dig it! The what if theories!

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              • BillyBoxing
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                #27
                Originally posted by Al Broker
                At the end of the day Canelo haters have to cry that boxing isn’t fair to Loma or GGG. I dig it! The what if theories!
                Maybe we just having an opinion, saying that Canelo's boxing diva a77 has been favoured a lot is not some crazy mad stuff.

                He's obviously the cash cow in boxing, boxing is more a business than a sport, and is somehow protected by all the whole business milking him.

                To prove you I'm not hater and don't have only negative things to say towards him, I think Canelo is maybe the bravest fighter in boxing (not including Manny), he just does not fear anybody.

                He fought dozens of killers, his opposition is elite.

                His style is cool to watch, defensive skills but never back up, he compete opponents taller than him most of the time, having serious reach disadvantages...
                Canelo is a beast and superb boxer.

                That being said, he Is one of the most pampered fighter of all time by Vegas judges.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Divine Hammer
                  canelo definitely should have 4 or 5 losses in my opinion.

                  clearly lost to floyd, lara and ggg twice. arguably lost to trout or at least a draw. I haven't seen this juarez fight. but if it was really a robbery then canelo arguable has 6 losses.

                  one thing for sure is canelo is extremely overrated!!!
                  Respect your opinion but seems a bit biased against Canelo...

                  People say Canelo won the Lara fight because he came forward and brought the fight while Lara moved and boxed.

                  People say GGG won the 1st Canelo fight because GGG came forward and brought the fight while Canelo moved and boxed.

                  To say Canelo lost both of those fights is contradicting yourself because if you thought he lost one he should've won the other. Similarly, the 2nd GGG fight was pretty strongly not a GGG win (by majority of fans) but a draw was acceptable.

                  The Trout fight was a strange fight because of open scoring. Nonetheless the KD was difference maker for me

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                  • Shadoww702
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Mammoth
                    Why does it matter who should have more losses out of the two? Weird thread...
                    Thats kind of what I was thinking??? I don't get it?

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                      #30
                      *** it! Let's just end the thread to satisfy the cry babies.

                      Canelo lost to

                      Trout
                      Cotto
                      Lara

                      Was losing to Khan but LUCKY punch saved him. But still counts as a loss 3 rounds to 2

                      Floyd
                      Ggg twice
                      First fight 10 rounds to 2
                      2nd fight 8 rounds to 5 (Boolio type score).

                      Now we can all STFU

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