Should Canelo have more losses than Loma?

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  • BillyBoxing
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    #1

    Should Canelo have more losses than Loma?

    Canelo has been clearly beaten by TBE,
    then "80%" thought he lost GGG 1 and it's well reported that most of the mexican crowd thought he lost to Juarez in his 5th pro fight (DRAW).

    He has had 3 VERY CLOSE fights vs Trout, Lara, GGG 2.

    He walked out of it with only one loss when he could theorically be 5/6 losses.


    Loma has been beaten clearly ONCE, by Lopez, and has been in one close fight, Salido (SD/most people scored it a draw), I won't write that much about Salido's weight/low blows fools.

    Loma got two losses ROFL

    I think it's pretty funny and some fighters like Canelo are pretty well rewarded by judges.
    Canelo even pulled a draw card vs Floyd wich is madness.

    I think Canelo is def not the P4P king and people are being fooled by the GBP scorecards and matchmaking.

    Not hating on Canelo, I think he's good for boxing and I'm glad that we can enjoy his skills. He's fighting everybody, dude has steel balls, RESPEK, but hey, those cards are fishy. WHAT YALL THINK?
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    NO, he beat everybody but Floyd and his 2 draws are OK
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    Last edited by BillyBoxing; 11-14-2020, 03:09 AM.
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    Originally posted by BillyBoxing
    Canelo has been clearly beaten by TBE,
    then "80%" thought he lost GGG 1 and it's well reported that most of the mexican crowd thought he lost to Juarez in his 5th pro fight (DRAW).

    He has had 3 VERY CLOSE fights vs Trout, Lara, GGG 2.

    He walked out of it with only one loss when he could theorically be 5/6 losses.


    Loma has been beaten clearly ONCE, by Lopez, and has been in one close fight, Salido (SD/most people scored it a draw), I won't write that much about Salido's weight/low blows fools.

    Loma got two losses ROFL

    I think it's pretty funny and some fighters like Canelo are pretty well rewarded by judges.
    Canelo even pulled a draw card vs Floyd wich is madness.

    I think Canelo is def not the P4P king and people are being fooled by the GBP scorecards and matchmaking.

    Not hating on Canelo, I think he's good for boxing and I'm glad that we can enjoy his skills. He's fighting everybody, dude has steel balls, RESPEK, but hey, those cards are fishy. WHAT YALL THINK?
    I thought he beat Trout clean to be honest.

    I thought he lost to Lara and I thought the first GGG fight was a legitimate draw.

    I honestly don't get the people who thought GGG deserved points simply for walking forward even thought he was eating hard counters the whole night.

    I also never thought GGG was walking Canelo down. Canelo was setting traps in the ropes, countering, and then circling back to the centre.

    At no point did I ever feel that he was walking to the ropes and circling because he was being forced to by GGG. In fact, I seem to recall many instances in that fight where Canelo was setting a trap on the ropes and GGG was hesitant to engage. GGG also did not throw body shots because he was getting countered hard every time he tried to.

    The second fight all but cemented that GGG did not have the ability to walk Canelo down, and it verified that the narrative created that Canelo was being walked down in the first fight as opposed to dictating where and when to trade was utter gibberish.

    Canelo fought well in both fights and was the superior boxer in both. The fights were close only because Canelo's stamina is garbage.
    Last edited by Doubledagger; 11-14-2020, 09:13 AM.

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    • Thuglife Nelo
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      #3
      Originally posted by BillyBoxing
      Not hating on Canelo, I think he's good for boxing and I'm glad that we can enjoy his skills. He's fighting everybody, dude has steel balls, RESPEK, but hey, those cards are fishy. WHAT YALL THINK?
      Lol. Youve openly hated on Canelo many times so this subtext to insinuate that boxing wasnt fair to Loma but for Canelo yes then let this sink in.

      1.) Doesnt matter if cards are "fishy." There are no narratives to prove his skills dont compete with other elites. If Canelo fought like DSG, stylistically, every fight then maybe you could prove his style doesnt own up to cards. There are many fighters whom wouldnt be able to catch Lara with consecutive body shots on the ropes for 12 rounds, but Canelo did.

      2.) Canelo has never performed like Loma has for the first 7 rounds like Loma did. GGG, Jacobs, Kovalev would all be the same in punching power for Lopez comparison. In fact, many fans of GGG and Kovalev would find it offrnsive comparing their power to Lopez.

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      • Mammoth
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        #4
        Why does it matter who should have more losses out of the two? Weird thread...

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        • Divine Hammer
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          canelo definitely should have 4 or 5 losses in my opinion.

          clearly lost to floyd, lara and ggg twice. arguably lost to trout or at least a draw. I haven't seen this juarez fight. but if it was really a robbery then canelo arguable has 6 losses.

          one thing for sure is canelo is extremely overrated!!!

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          • Thuglife Nelo
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            #6
            Originally posted by Divine Hammer
            canelo definitely should have 4 or 5 losses in my opinion.

            clearly lost to floyd, lara and ggg twice. arguably lost to trout or at least a draw. I haven't seen this juarez fight. but if it was really a robbery then canelo arguable has 6 losses.

            one thing for sure is canelo is extremely overrated!!!
            The best part is that legends age well like fine wine, and as long as Canelo continues to win his style with be studied in gyms for years to come. In other words, your opinion will "clearly" not matter for future use.

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            • Madison Boxing
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              im not convinced he beat jacobs either, i had it a draw, neither guy was landing any thing

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              • Mr.365
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                Originally posted by Divine Hammer
                canelo definitely should have 4 or 5 losses in my opinion.

                clearly lost to floyd, lara and ggg twice. arguably lost to trout or at least a draw. I haven't seen this juarez fight. but if it was really a robbery then canelo arguable has 6 losses.

                one thing for sure is canelo is extremely overrated!!!
                nah he isn't your White Hopes (Lomachenko, Derev, Kovalev, G) Usyk exposed & Tyson getting smoked against Ruiz + Team Canelo

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                • Cobratu
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                  #9
                  What kinda crap thread is this?

                  So if we’re playin that “what if” game then.

                  Floyd should have 2 losses against Castillo and first Maidana fight and arguably the Delahoya fight so that’s 3 losses that puts him at more losses than Loma.

                  Fury got a long count against wilder in the 12th and that one disputed fight early in his career so that puts Fury at 2 losses tied with Loma.

                  Wtf is this crap.

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                  • Cobratu
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                    #10
                    More “what if”

                    IF Loma had power he might be undefeated.

                    IF Linares had a chin he would still be LW champ.

                    IF Chavez Jr had heart he might be one of the best at 168.

                    IF Wilder had skill he would have never lost to fury.

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