Comments Thread For: Fury: Wilder Will Never Get a Shot at Me For What He's Said

[kafkod]

Some people get caught up in emotions and they start listening and watching others, they don’t really have a mind of their own, so they use others mind or lack of to make a decision for themselves.

If I was one of those who backed Wilder beforehand, the moment I hear him talking and coming out with 5 different excuses, I would shut up and just back off that topic.

If the man involved in this sticks to one accusation or excuse then maybe he would look credible, but to come out with 5/6 excuses, accuse your own trainer of poisoning your water?

That would have been the hint from any educated person. But it seems Wilder like those who follow him, don’t see how dumb they look to the outside world (Of their own and their king’s bubble)

Wilder can't accept that he isn't invincible and his fan boys can't accept that they were wrong in believing he is. Their answer is to blow up this ridiculous bubble of lies and delusion, then hide inside it pretending that "the whole world knows" they are right, and The King was cheated out of his crown.

[Sid-Knee]

The truth spoken by Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder has the Gypsy-Chicken on the edge of a nervous breakdown. The original Tyson, would of made this Winnie retire with just words alone.

You cant hang Tyson, I thought shyte-talking was your thing, you big fat P*SSY!

Who was Mike talking about??

That's right, another Brit Heavyweight where he got the daylights beaten out of him. Haha.

And oh look, it's Shirly there with him. I think he should protect his American Heavies from us considering how it goes all the time.

See you in 10 years when you've got another bum for us to beat down at the weight.

[Lemonhead_Jeff]

Wilder accuses Fury of having weights in his gloves.

Fury sues him for defamation.

The question then becomes - did Wilder have proof that his accusations were true?

If he didn't, then he had no right making them and is guilty of defamation.

That's the way it works.

You can't take somebody to court without making a
case and presenting your evidence of wrongdoing.
The onus is on the plantif to present some kind of
evidence before the case will even be heard.

Donald Trump is trying that right now,
and his cases are largely being thrown out of court
because he has no tangible evidence of wrongdoing.

And as far as the boxing commissions go,
it's ridiculous to portray them as infallible pillars of
virtue who are never accused of bias or ineptitude.
Many fighters and trainers have gotten away with
some form of cheating. Furthermore, even some of
the high-profile people who were caught cheating
were NOT caught by the commission themselves.
When Naazim Richardson called out both Trinidad
AND Margarito for having illegal wraps, it was while
their hands were being wrapped right in front of
commission officials!

Checkmate.

[richardt]

Right, and if FURY initiates a lawsuit, that makes FURY
the accuser. Accusing Wilder of slander.
I don't understand why that is so hard for people
on here to understand.

You're not getting what I'm talking about. The initial accuser has the burden of proof! The person who initiates the accusations was Wilder, not Fury. Pac did not have to prove that he was not taking PEDS to sue for slander against Mayweather. It was Mayweather who had to prove Pac was taking PEDS and Mayweather lost and Pac was awarded money and Mayweather had to make a formal public apology.

[richardt]

Do yourself a favour and stop making a fool of yourself.

Exactly! When Mayweather (the initial accuser) accused Pac of using PEDS, Pac did not have to prove he wasn't, Mayweather had to prove he was, and didn't, and Pac won, received over $100,000 and the Mayweather's are lucky it wasn't more money, and Mayweather Jr, Roger Mayweather, and Mayweather Sr had to put out a formal apology regarding the accusations.

[Monzon99]

Everyone but the dummies of the world were able to figure out fraud weather was using peds as his no. 1 escape hatch to duck Pacquiao for six years until Les Moonves forced it. Floyd knew the ped excuse was not enough and employed other duck excuses to avoid Pac, such as blaming Arum, blaming Pac for not avenging his losses, blaming that he had nothing to prove, blaming that Pac didn't deserve the fight, blaming it was not about money but about self preservation.

Floyd fraud weather finally confessed twice on video that he's a coward and he's ok with it.

[Lemonhead_Jeff]

You're not getting what I'm talking about. The initial accuser has the burden of proof! The person who initiates the accusations was Wilder, not Fury. Pac did not have to prove that he was not taking PEDS to sue for slander against Mayweather. It was Mayweather who had to prove Pac was taking PEDS and Mayweather lost and Pac was awarded money and Mayweather had to make a formal public apology.

Wilder made accusations on social media.
Unless Fury decides to litigate, then that's as far as
it will go. Just another social media rant.
People talk **** on social media all the time,
There is no Instagram police department.

If Fury decided to take Wilder to court, that means
Fury becomes the accuser. Accusing Wilder of slander
in a court of law. To even have your case heard, you
will need to present your case, with evidence that
you have indeed been slandered.

If this DID make it to trial, it would be a civil case,
not a criminal case. That means that Wilder would not
have to show proof, beyond a reasonable doubt, that
he is not lying about Fury, he would only have to show
a 'preponderance of evidence'. Wilder cannot prove
that Fury cheated in a Criminal case, but he may have
enough to get off a civil slander case initiated by Fury.

Similar to how OJ Simpson was found not guilty in
his criminal trial, but he was found guilty in his
following civil trial, both over the same crime.

[vitali1999]

It's obvious Wilder is f_cked in the head like his fans

[richardt]

Wilder made accusations on social media.
Unless Fury decides to litigate, then that's as far as
it will go. Just another social media rant.
People talk **** on social media all the time,
There is no Instagram police department.

If Fury decided to take Wilder to court, that means
Fury becomes the accuser. Accusing Wilder of slander
in a court of law. To even have your case heard, you
will need to present your case, with evidence that
you have indeed been slandered.

If this DID make it to trial, it would be a civil case,
not a criminal case. That means that Wilder would not
have to show proof, beyond a reasonable doubt, that
he is not lying about Fury, he would only have to show
a 'preponderance of evidence'. Wilder cannot prove
that Fury cheated in a Criminal case, but he may have
enough to get off a civil slander case initiated by Fury.

Similar to how OJ Simpson was found not guilty in
his criminal trial, but he was found guilty in his
following civil trial, both over the same crime.

Are you a troll, or just dumb as ***? Mayweather and Wilder made PUBLIC statements about Pac and Fury that were slanderous. Mayweather failed to prove Pac was taking PEDS and was fined and had to apologize publicly. If Fury wants to pursue by filing in court a defamation of character lawsuit, it is Wilder who will have the burden of proof, just like Mayweather did. Get a clue if you have to beg, borrow, or steal one. It comes down to the original accuser. Get it? Got it? GOOD!

[Bronx23]

Um, I don't agree with this. If you are really that mad, take it out on Wilder in the ring. Wouldn't this do more to deny Wilder of everything he said?

Wouldn't the glory of beating Wilder that no longer has the excuses of having Breland, spiked water, someone from Wilder's camp watching the gloves being put on meticulously, a 40lbs costume being worn be better than saying you won't fight him now?

I can't honestly think of a better revenge for what Wilder said than proving once again you are as good as you say you are. Heck, I'd give Fury way more respect if he can pull it off a second time.

Deep down inside, I want to see if without any of those excuses if Wilder can pull through, that's all. If not, Okay, fair play to Fury then, he is the better man. I'm just curious what a back against the wall Wilder can do.

Same reason Cotto didn’t give Margarito a trilogy, not wanting the other man to make another pay day off of you. Wilder has made some serious claims that no doubt whether true or not will follow Fury for the rest of his life. Same thing that happened to Pac and the PED allegations from Floyd. I can see why Fury says f***> him. Only difference is, I’d go the Pac-Man route and sue