BoxRec Removes Canelo Alvarez from P4P #1 Ranking

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  • Citizen Koba
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    #11
    Originally posted by Al Broker
    What will be Canelo’s minimum guarantee for Yildirim? It can’t be PPV because PBC is crying that Plant PPV wouldn’t get ample time
    I ain't got a clue, man, would imagine you'd be the first to know. I wasn't particularly criticising it as such, with Canelo so recently out of contract and the circumstances we're in I wasn't expecting anything special - in fact I wasn't expecting him to fight at all this year - but the only intrigue in this fight for me is 'what round?'

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    • Thuglife Nelo
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      #12
      Originally posted by Citizen Koba
      I ain't got a clue, man, would imagine you'd be the first to know. I wasn't particularly criticising it as such, with Canelo so recently out of contract and the circumstances we're in I wasn't expecting anything special - in fact I wasn't expecting him to fight at all this year - but the only intrigue in this fight for me is 'what round?'
      The way I see it is the worst case scenario is if Champions want money that isn’t realistic with the current shift from Canelo’s circumstances then Yildirim is the best option since he has no belt and CAN’T demand like others while PPv isn’t likely. The problem is, will Canelo take the guarantee for Yildirim if PPV can’t be done? Seeing how Showtime gambled PPv with the Charlos and Davis LSC, why wouldn’t they stage PPV for Canelo vs Yildirim. This is what the networks would want. It doesn’t make any sense about PPV’s not making sense now when Christmas is near and Canelo has a fanbase

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      • Citizen Koba
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        #13
        Originally posted by Al Broker
        The way I see it is the worst case scenario is if Champions want money that isn’t realistic with the current shift from Canelo’s circumstances then Yildirim is the best option since he has no belt and CAN’T demand like others while PPv isn’t likely. The problem is, will Canelo take the guarantee for Yildirim if PPV can’t be done? Seeing how Showtime gambled PPv with the Charlos and Davis LSC, why wouldn’t they stage PPV for Canelo vs Yildirim. This is what the networks would want. It doesn’t make any sense about PPV’s not making sense now when Christmas is near and Canelo has a fanbase
        I see what you're saying, and I don't know. Personally I'd say Canelo probably should be trying to get some momentum going and should probably take a fight, any fight, even if it means taking a paycut... probably also worth it to keep himself sharp. But I can see he might not want to set a precedent by settling too $$$ low.

        Guess it's down to SHO to crunch the numbers, see if they think a PPVs gonna be worth it, but I'd suggest it's probably too late to get it in this year now.
        Last edited by Citizen Koba; 11-11-2020, 04:40 AM.

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        • Thuglife Nelo
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          #14
          Originally posted by Citizen Koba
          Personally I'd say Canelo probably should be trying to get some momentum going and should probably take a fight,
          Exactly!! That’s why the vacant WBC wouldn’t be intriguing for Canelo to take? Who cares about Yildirim. The focus is getting that belt for unifications or general business at PBC. Fans don’t want to admit this because they just hate on Canelo knowing Yildirim will get KO’d. Ok then, so what’s, forget that Turk. Let Canelo just get a belt so we can get better fights or else Canelo should take Hearn’s offer for Ryder or Smith. This isn’t complicated

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          • TJ highway
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            #15
            Canelo hasn't fought in over a year?

            What do you think was gonna happen Diva!

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            • boliodogs
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              #16
              Originally posted by Al Broker
              This funna make the Cartel King angry. Someone funna get KO’d next
              Why don't you try
              writing funna English instead of your own funna language? You funna pick Canelo to win by KO 100% of the funna time so what is funna new about your latest funna prediction?

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              • aboutfkntime
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                #17
                Originally posted by Al Broker
                The algorithm goes by activity, types of opponents beat, and how long in the standings. I think he was removed specifically because of inactivity. I remember PAC being removed from BoxRec before the Thurman fight and then highly elevated thereafter. Or was it before the Broner fight, I don’t remember..




                boxing is not a maths game

                that is why 'The Ring' no longer strictly rank by lineage

                because they got tired of looking ******

                any system that is not comprised of NUMEROUS knowledgeable boxing heads sitting around a table... is flawed logic, and utter garbage

                the fact that they juggle PROVEN, TOP, fighters up and down with impunity... is a clear indicator that they have no idea what they are doing

                boxing needs MUCH better than some halfwit paint-by-numbers system

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                • Rick Taylor
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by _original_
                  Boxrec weight division and pound for pound lists have always been way off, they're computed by some type of odd algorithm (through a points system) that never makes sense.
                  Originally posted by Al Broker
                  The algorithm goes by activity, types of opponents beat, and how long in the standings. I think he was removed specifically because of inactivity. I remember PAC being removed from BoxRec before the Thurman fight and then highly elevated thereafter. Or was it before the Broner fight, I don’t remember..
                  it does work through a algorithm (points system)
                  but they seem do some sort reset/redistribution of points every few years.

                  and 1 year inactivity does remove fighters from current rankings

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                  • Rick Taylor
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                    boxing is not a maths game

                    that is why 'The Ring' no longer strictly rank by lineage

                    because they got tired of looking ******

                    any system that is not comprised of NUMEROUS knowledgeable boxing heads sitting around a table... is flawed logic, and utter garbage

                    the fact that they juggle PROVEN, TOP, fighters up and down with impunity... is a clear indicator that they have no idea what they are doing

                    boxing needs MUCH better than some halfwit paint-by-numbers system
                    great in theory.
                    but your naive plan would never ever work in the real world

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                    • Boxing Goat
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                      #20
                      1) Canelo is rightfully P4P #1 right now

                      2) Canelo still is P4P#1 on Boxrec right now at this second

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