Comments Thread For: "Strength Of Schedule" Is The Only Knock Against Terence Crawford

[Ochoa780]

Danny literally lost against Abril, his very next fight after Matthyse, and then went on an even deeper cherry pick against Rod Salka.

Danny beat a fresh Khan, but in hindsight its hard to label that a remarkable win. Danny also beat very shopworn Morales twice. Nonetheless Danny had a good run at 140, no question, but I Bud has beaten everyone he could've fought and ducked nobody. Bud also never had a close fight in his career, not at 135, 140, or 147. Bud hasn't fought the competition Danny has but that's not all his fault. Nobody can force a guy to get in the ring they have to be willing. And it's well-documented Manny and Danny Garcia had real offers to fight Bud and turned it down. Similarly, Spence and Thurman were public about "other side of the street" a couple years ago and wouldn't take the fight for that reason.

Bud's career could wind up being disappointing if he's not able to get a higher level of opponent...he needs to be fighting Thurman, Manny, Spence, etc. He'll probably get one or two of them, but he turns 34 next year. That special window where the fight was hot is long gone. People have moved on to Heavyweight and Lightweight and rightfully so.

Was hilarious watching Spence talk about "building the fight". Neither Spence or Crawford are marketable. You can't build with either of them. Their work in the ring is fine but outside of it they are dull as wood. They thought they were the next Floyd and Manny and that's not how it works...otherwise every "good" fight would build a PPV megastar and there have only ever been a handful of them...Tyson, DLH, Floyd, Manny, etc.

RJJ wasn't even a PPV megastar. Tyson and Floyd had the personality and DLH and Manny had their country support. Spence and Crawford really messed up with their would've been megafight.

Anyhow, both guys will earn plenty of money and that's what boxing is...sport, competition, "prizefighting". This is their job and neither will go hungry so I don't think either will lose sleep anytime soon

I don't think you know what literally means because danny didnt lose to abril..

If we are just gonna single out the cherry's crawfords resume is full of them

Danny fought khan while he was actually good, he beat matthysse when he looked like a monster, lamont, Guerrero, granados who is kinda underrated, hes fought Thurman and porter and hung in there with them despite losing.

I wouldnt pick danny over Crawford at this moment if they fought but at least hes taking on challenges.. because yes it is crawfords fault, he is the one that signed with top rank where he new it was safe to make money with very little risk. Because there are few real wws in that stable.

[#1PaperChamp]

I don't think you know what literally means because danny didnt lose to abril..

If you think Danny beat Abril then you must also think Tim Bradley beat Pacman, Paul Williams beat Lara, and Wilder drew against Fury...

If we are just gonna single out the cherry's crawfords resume is full of them

Crawford's resume has zero cherry picks. A cherry pick means a fighter dodged a more challenging opponent to fight a softer opponent. That has literally never happened in Crawford's career.

Danny fought khan while he was actually good, he beat matthysse when he looked like a monster, lamont, Guerrero, granados who is kinda underrated, hes fought Thurman and porter and hung in there with them despite losing.

The Khan and Matthyse wins were good, solid wins.

Lamont Peterson was and Ghost were decent opponents, but most people thought LP won or at least a draw

Danny chose to fight Granados instead of Crawford. That's the definition of a "cherry pick"

I wouldnt pick danny over Crawford at this moment if they fought but at least hes taking on challenges.. because yes it is crawfords fault, he is the one that signed with top rank where he new it was safe to make money with very little risk. Because there are few real wws in that stable.

Crawford made a contract offer to Manny Pacquiao in 2016, Danny Garcia in 2019, and has been publicly requesting the Thurman and Spence fights. Crawford can't force them to accept the fights.

And before people whine about "Top Rank, Bob Arum, etc.". Crawford fought Khan who was NOT with Top Rank and they paid him $5m + PPV. Crawford CAN fight people outside of Top Rank, but PBC usually only fights other PBC guys. None of Spence, Thurman, Garcia, or Porter have fought anyone BUT PBC opponents.

Danny Garcia passed up on a career high $3m + PPV to fight Crawford and he rejected that fight and instead chose to fight Granados for $1m flat. It only makes more sense if you don't believe you could beat Crawford.

[Ochoa780]

If you think Danny beat Abril then you must also think Tim Bradley beat Pacman, Paul Williams beat Lara, and Wilder drew against Fury...



Crawford's resume has zero cherry picks. A cherry pick means a fighter dodged a more challenging opponent to fight a softer opponent. That has literally never happened in Crawford's career.



The Khan and Matthyse wins were good, solid wins.

Lamont Peterson was and Ghost were decent opponents, but most people thought LP won or at least a draw

Danny chose to fight Granados instead of Crawford. That's the definition of a "cherry pick"



Crawford made a contract offer to Manny Pacquiao in 2016, Danny Garcia in 2019, and has been publicly requesting the Thurman and Spence fights. Crawford can't force them to accept the fights.

And before people whine about "Top Rank, Bob Arum, etc.". Crawford fought Khan who was NOT with Top Rank and they paid him $5m + PPV. Crawford CAN fight people outside of Top Rank, but PBC usually only fights other PBC guys. None of Spence, Thurman, Garcia, or Porter have fought anyone BUT PBC opponents.

Danny Garcia passed up on a career high $3m + PPV to fight Crawford and he rejected that fight and instead chose to fight Granados for $1m flat. It only makes more sense if you don't believe you could beat Crawford.

If you think tr offered danny 5m for a fight you're smoking some good stuff.

And what ppv..?%%% They lost money on Khan fight lmao you think they are gonna make money on a Crawford fight?

Edit: and where are you getting this 5m dollar number from..? All I've found on that is rumors and interviews, the only legitimate talk on money was a interview with top rank reps that said 3 million. There is nothing for 5m anywhere

[Fanofreason]

Lol without fighting anyone of note how do we know he is good. He went life and death with Gamboa.

[#1PaperChamp]

If you think tr offered danny 5m for a fight you're smoking some good stuff.

And what ppv..?%%% They lost money on Khan fight lmao you think they are gonna make money on a Crawford fight?

Edit: and where are you getting this 5m dollar number from..? All I've found on that is rumors and interviews, the only legitimate talk on money was a interview with top rank reps that said 3 million. There is nothing for 5m anywhere

The offer, presented by Moretti during a phone call with Angel: $3 million guaranteed plus upside of the pay-per-view revenue. The plan was for Crawford-Garcia to headline Top Rank’s first PPV show on ESPN. Of course, Garcia is aligned with PBC, meaning he fights exclusively on Showtime/FOX.

“It was a totally professional discussion,” Moretti recalled. “He said he would discuss it with Danny. Never heard back. I appreciate him taking the call. I think that door is always open. Absolutely.”

https://www.******.com/548361-top-ra...ight-in-march/

It was $3m + PPV. I believe Khan got $5m + PPV. So Danny could've negotiated more, but he fought Granados instead for $1m flat.

Nothing screams confidence like fighting a literal journeyman after losing to Keith Thurman, publicly asking for a rematch, and avoiding an undefeated 3-division champion who was #1 PFP.

[Ochoa780]

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It was $3m + PPV. I believe Khan got $5m + PPV. So Danny could've negotiated more, but he fought Granados instead for $1m flat.

Nothing screams confidence like fighting a literal journeyman after losing to Keith Thurman, publicly asking for a rematch, and avoiding an undefeated 3-division champion who was #1 PFP.

So what kind of confidence does buds resume show then..? Exactly..

[#1PaperChamp]

So what kind of confidence does buds resume show then..? Exactly..

Who has Bud ducked?

Crawford has fought Khan and Brook and neither were TR fighters.

Crawford offered both Pacman (when he was with TR) and Danny (PBC) fights and was rejected. The Danny offer would've been a career high for Danny.

Spence, Thurman, Danny, and Porter only fight each other/PBC guys. Crawford can't control that.

Crawford fought Khan and Brook and neither were TR so Crawford fights anyone willing to fight.

Any Crawford is undefeated across 3 divisions, was lineal and undisputed at 140, and has never had a close fight.

I'll take Crawford resume over every WW not named Pacquiao hands down.