Professional boxers with little or no amatuer experience?

[hhh1200]

canelo used his first 30 fights or so as amateur fights. i thought they'd do the same with shane mosley jr since he didn't have an amateur experience.

[Luilun]

Can a boxer become successful in the Pro's without any Amateur background. Give Me your thoughts? Any boxers with little or no amatuer experience?

Most Boxers from Mexico have limited Amateur experience Canelo only had 15 amateur fights. Butter Bean made Money being King of The 4 rounders He never had amateur experience other than winning the Tough Man Contest

[Luilun]

James Toney only had twenty or so amateur fights.

But he had like 50,000 sparring matches . He said he would spar everyday

[Marchegiano]

There's a lot of Olympians on that list. Not saying you're wrong but it blows my mind Floyd Patterson was an olympic gold medalist with only 20 amateur fights.

I have no ****ing clue

I don't know much of **** about am careers, just boxrec info.

I am fully ignorant here.

[Marchegiano]

These are just partial records.
Most of this list had extensive amateur careers & were olympians some of which had in excess of 300 amateur or so fights.

Wilder had the least experience of anyone listed apart from Marciano

I had a feeling something was going on. Just doesn't make sense for everyone to be so, so low on fights.

Is there a good amateur record keeping site, mag, or book?

[Cobra Curry]

Dwight Qawi

[_Rexy_]

But he had like 50,000 sparring matches . He said he would spar everyday

Sparring is training though. Very different.

I have no ****ing clue

I don't know much of **** about am careers, just boxrec info.

I am fully ignorant here.

Ohhh gotcha. Boxrec amateur info is spotty and incomplete a lot of the times

[PRINCEKOOL]

little to no amateur experience?

That's basically the story of every mexican fighter

Experience comes in many forms, if these Mexican kids have been in gym's since they where a kid? Training and fighting inside the gym 'For me that is experience'.

If you have been a street fighter 'Again that is experience' it all add's up etc

[dan_cov]

I had a feeling something was going on. Just doesn't make sense for everyone to be so, so low on fights.

Is there a good amateur record keeping site, mag, or book?

Sadly not. This one is about the most complete I have managed to find but sadly they don't have an awful lot of fighters listed but they do have most of the current top Eastern European fighters records at least partial.

http://amateur-boxing.strefa.pl/

[Rockin']

Nice

One thing that's been on my mind recently is how true is it when people say X had little to no amateur experience especially in the HW division. I've had very little time to do any research but there is some interesting stuff. I'm not an amateurs expert, at all, I didn't even bother to follow or look at ams prior to now so this is just boxrec info with no context.


Wilder is 24-6, meant to be a low figure for a HW champion.

Marciano is 9-4

Ali, 23-1

Tyson, 10-2

Joe Louis, 24-2

Patterson, 18-2

Berbick is 0-3

Ezzard Charles 3-0

Holy 14-6

W. Klistchko 20-4

Vitali 4-2

Fury 6-3

AJ 26-2

Pov 14-2

Martin 10-5

Lewis 24-4

Frazier 7-2

L. Spinks 32-8

I don't think it matters. Wilder oddly has a lot of amateur experience compared to other HW champions. I wonder why we were told he doesn't. Fury, conversely, hardly fought as an amateur for a guy who 'grew up' fighting.

When I get time i'me going to look into all the am records on boxrec for the HW champions and ask wtf.

The amateur records in Box Rec are at best, partial. Would you believe that Tyson only had 12 am bouts while Holyfield wins olympic gold with only 20 bouts? And Ali wins olympic gold with only 24 bouts? ...........Rockin'