Whos Higher On Your P4P List, Teofimo Lopez or Errol Spence Jr?

[ifc]

Teo couldn't wait to fight the best in his division while Spence will do anything to avoid Crawford.

[Luilun]

Lopez, Spence is like a number 13

[Luilun]

Pound for pound is supposed to be about how good you are for the weight class you fight in now. If Spence moves up he won't be as dominant at 154 or 160 as he is at 147 and that makes him worse not better pound for pound. spence is not overrated. He earned his high pound for pound ranking with many good wins over champions and top contenders and many more good wins than lopez who never moved up in weight either nor should he have to. Moving up in weight is what is highly overrated. It is how good you are for the weight class you are in tat matters.

No pound for pound means if both guys were the same size who would win . Let’s say Teo Lopez vs Tyson Fury the fantasy fight is put into play who would win . Why do you think hardly in heavy weights are never in the P4P list because they usually have poor skills

[The D3vil]

Lopez.

Spence hasn't fought in almost a year and I'm not sure he'll be the same after his accident knocked his teeth out.

If he handle's Danny easily, then I'll see

[BillyBoxing]

Pound for pound is supposed to be about how good you are for the weight class you fight in now. If Spence moves up he won't be as dominant at 154 or 160 as he is at 147 and that makes him worse not better pound for pound. spence is not overrated. He earned his high pound for pound ranking with many good wins over champions and top contenders and many more good wins than lopez who never moved up in weight either nor should he have to. Moving up in weight is what is highly overrated. It is how good you are for the weight class you are in tat matters.

Yeah and that's why Spence is for sure overrated, his best win is Porter who lost 80% of all his big fights and drew with Julio Diaz, by the way and should have lost versus Ugas just before the Spence fight.

Spence didn't even dominate him despite being bigger ect...he won by SD.


Spence is not even the best WW in the world, Bud will embarass him.

He beat Brook coming from a TKO losse + surgery.

Spence is not one of the 5 P4P best fighter in the world.

Fury for exemple is better, his dominant wins over Klit and Wilder sht all over Spence's resume, and he's better boxer eye test wise by miles.

If Spence beats Bud, I will change my mind.

[BillyBoxing]

Staying at your best weight and fighting the best challengers in your weight class makes you just as good or better pound for pound than a boxer who moves above his best weight class. Fighting the best fighters your own weight damn sure is risky. Hagler, Monzon and other all time greats never moved up a single pound in their career. Loma, Mikey, Rigo and Donaire all moved up into weight classes they did not belong in and all of them got beat by good naturally bigger men and dropped lower pound for pound. You are giving Lopez lots of credit for doing things he has not yet done and may never do.

And do you agree with that?

I don't

I think Loma should be still ranked higher than Spence P4P, just because he's the better boxer, period. Loma should not get punished for chasing bigger younger guys.

Loma fighting Teo is like Spence fighting Canelo, Spence would get wrecked, not lose a 5-7 type of decision.

Loma proved his greatness vs Teo IMO, he was dominated for the first 6 rounds, just like he did vs Rigo, he could have quit like Rigo, earmuffs like garcia vs Spence but he adjusted and came back to win the second half of the fight.

Teo was way larger in that ring, I give Loma props for that. Teo icing natural lightweights like Commey.

I did not say that to be P4P you have to move up, but it is sure a test and a way to proof your talent. And I'm not talking about moving up and grabbing paper belts ala Broner.

[Ca$ual Fan]

Lopez besting Loma > any on Spence wins