Comments Thread For: Joshua: Wilder Admitted It, We Made Him a Lucrative Offer

[Fire4231]

I believe something shady is going on between Fury and Wilder camps. I think they are colluding.

However, just based on whats happening, why is it ok to certain fans from a certain geographic location that Fury is deciding to not fight the trilogy. The rematch clause expiring doesn't require that Fury fight someone else.

I appreciate your willingness to listen and analyze. I will add this why does a guys who was supposedly ready to fight Wilder today need a tune up? Why does that coincide with glove gate?

Do I know he cheated for sure no. But is he behaving like a cheat absolutely. Is boxing protecting him without an answer yes.

Tyson Fury knows people will be watching his gloves. He is not trying to get in with a killer now because he is insecure about his power. That’s why he keeps ending up in these unexplainable glove controversies. It’s his crutch, do I think Tyson can win with out it yes based on skill. But I wonder, psychologically will he be the same with a big puncher?

[Sid-Knee]

You know nothing about me! You definitely can not define me by my country! My worldview, nor my mentality is anywhere close to that of Deontay Wilder! What i can gleam about you, is that you hate facts, you hate history, but you like debate. Go find someone else to talk to you! I'm done!

I know you very well from posts you've made over the years. I can confirm that you're very deluded.

Most from your country behave this way. This is something the world sees unfortunately.

Your mentality is very much like Deontay. But if you're deluded and have no self-awareness though, how would you know? That's why it becomes a massive problem when trying to reason with people like you. But no, it's f3cking impossible.

I love facts. That's my f3cking point. But you clearly don't. Which is ironic considering... But you don't even know what irony is. Clearly. See this as an example of your delusion. Even after all of Wilder's behaviour, you still consider him to be honest and honourable. You still think this pathological liar is telling the truth when he doesn't know how to. And that's not including the fact that he contradicts himself all the time and is also a pathological hypocrite.

I hate history? What???? What are you babbling on about now?

I like debate with reasonable and fair people. Not extremists. But there's no way i'm going to sit back and allow this narrative you lot put up and cast as the truth, when it's anything but.

[Sid-Knee]

Mr. Imagination please tell us how the UK is dominating in he sport of boxing? Please name them... let me start you off...

- Tyson Fury (Slept in fight one, won received hopeful long count now has glove gate allegations yet to be defended)
- AJ Great fighter who two fights ago was knocked out by #7 Andy Ruiz Now rebuilding fighting a guy not in todays top 10?
- Dillian Whyte (PEDs cheat put to sleep by 40 year old Povetkin Upper Cut we think it’s a wrap
- Derek Chisora - Don’t even think he trains anymore beat by anyone who takes the fight
- Kell Brook Recently found a second wind after Errol Broke his Eye Socket looking to cash out with Crawford no thanks to Hearn
- Amir Kahn sleep for dinner knocked out by Canelo and cashed out
- Luke Campbell beat by The same Lomachenko Teophemo just beat up on
- Katie Taylor Awarded two gifts over Delfine Persoon lost all respect as a result
- Billy Joe Sanders Big mouth mental basket case and is not looking good or fighting anyone of worth
- Josh Taylor - Great fighter went to war in a shoot out with Regis Prograis Deserves every accolade KO’d Khongsong.
- Callum Smith- Promising but still hasn’t had a breakout fight
- Chris Eubank Good fighter when focused with some questionable losses


Side show Sidnee... where is the ****ing take over? Please send me the names of those that have boxing shook?

Nice list of fighters but out of twelve you have one great fighter, a great serial cheat and a few promising but yet to be all the way provens. Not knocking them but hardly a take over? Fury’s loaded gloves have pumped you all into the world of make believe. Stop already this rhetoric never passes the litmus test.

I said the UK is dominating you. As in, it's dominating your thoughts. You're obsessed with us and constantly slandering us with poison because the truth makes you insecure.

The rest of the shlt you wrote isn't even worth my time. Just look at the achievements of our current fighters compared to yours. And you have 5 times as many people as we do. It's embarrassing.

[Blackstarr]

I appreciate your willingness to listen and analyze. I will add this why does a guys who was supposedly ready to fight Wilder today need a tune up? Why does that coincide with glove gate?

Do I know he cheated for sure no. But is he behaving like a cheat absolutely. Is boxing protecting him without an answer yes.

Tyson Fury knows people will be watching his gloves. He is not trying to get in with a killer now because he is insecure about his power. That’s why he keeps ending up in these unexplainable glove controversies. It’s his crutch, do I think Tyson can win with out it yes based on skill. But I wonder, psychologically will he be the same with a big puncher?

It’s not a tune up - the fight is purely to keep him active because clearly Fox and ESPN can’t put up the necessary money for the fight. Are you genuinely telling us that Fury should sit on the sidelines indefinitely until a Wilder fight can be made, earning no money and wasting all his training camps??

And are you seriously telling me you believe Wilder’s claim that Fury fought with egg weights in his hands? Despite Jay Deas and others observing Fury in a room full of cameras, and Fury taking off his gloves in full view immediately after the fight? Needless to mention the impracticality of having them for an entire fight?

https://eggweights.com/pages/boxing-mma

If you seriously think Wilder’s claim is plausible, then there really is no reasoning possible with you. I’m afraid you are completely lost.

[Bronx2245]

I know you very well from posts you've made over the years. I can confirm that you're very deluded.

Most from your country behave this way. This is something the world sees unfortunately.

Your mentality is very much like Deontay. But if you're deluded and have no self-awareness though, how would you know? That's why it becomes a massive problem when trying to reason with people like you. But no, it's f3cking impossible.

I love facts. That's my f3cking point. But you clearly don't. Which is ironic considering... But you don't even know what irony is. Clearly. See this as an example of your delusion. Even after all of Wilder's behaviour, you still consider him to be honest and honourable. You still think this pathological liar is telling the truth when he doesn't know how to. And that's not including the fact that he contradicts himself all the time and is also a pathological hypocrite.

I hate history? What???? What are you babbling on about now?

I like debate with reasonable and fair people. Not extremists. But there's no way i'm going to sit back and allow this narrative you lot put up and cast as the truth, when it's anything but.

Who said Wilder is honest or honorable? Wilder said a fact, that he turned down a bigger offer to fight Joshua, to fight Fury! That's a fact! You're just mad that I still put that in context, BACKED UP by Dan Rafael from ESPN. You also don't like the fact that DAZN admitted they "messed up" the negotiations, BACKED UP by John Skipper's own words to Lance Pugmire of The Athletic!! You just spit BS without backing up any of your words! No one is co-signing Wilder's actions, excuses, etc.! You make the assumptions, not me! Then you try to come with some BS nationalism, i.e. "You and your country!" You're the one with the issue! You have the "Little Man" complex! You need help, not me! You're probably still hurt because Joshua came over here and got smacked around by an overweight Mexican-American fighter in his U.S. Debut! Joshua carry's that burden of the "UK Champion!" Wilder wished he had that support, but he was never the "U.S. Champion!" He was just Deontay Wilder! He's not Muhammad Ali, he's not even Mike Tyson, and I've said that many, many times! you should know that, because obviously you frequently read my posts! Do yourself a favor, STOP READING MY POSTS!

[Sid-Knee]

Who said Wilder is honest or honorable? Wilder said a fact, that he turned down a bigger offer to fight Joshua, to fight Fury! That's a fact! You're just mad that I still put that in context, BACKED UP by Dan Rafael from ESPN. You also don't like the fact that DAZN admitted they "messed up" the negotiations, BACKED UP by John Skipper's own words to Lance Pugmire of The Athletic!! You just spit BS without backing up any of your words! No one is co-signing Wilder's actions, excuses, etc.! You make the assumptions, not me! Then you try to come with some BS nationalism, i.e. "You and your country!" You're the one with the issue! You have the "Little Man" complex! You need help, not me!

You didn't put anything into context, you tried to justify this madness with your own madness and spin.

I'm the one with the "Little man" complex? Perfect end to another shlt post. Thank you. I always appreciate irony. Especially when it's this rich. Maybe in the next life when you aren't born American you can join in the laughter that seems to confuse you. Haha.

Brilliant.

[Fire4231]

Bwahahaha!!!

I said the UK is dominating you. As in, it's dominating your thoughts.Bwahaaa!!!

You're obsessed with us and constantly slandering us with poison because the truth makes you insecure. Bwahahaaa!!! n’all clowns you can dish it but you can’t take it. Why you guys keep launching these attacks with fake bullets? Any one with any endurance and boxing knowledge can unravel this nonsense.

The rest of the shlt you wrote isn't even worth my time. Sidnee you must be mad. You saying sh@t?

Just look at the achievements of our current fighters compared to yours.

Here we go again Mr. Imagination... Once again... which of your fighters are doing so much better than our fighters. Please tell me how that list of 12 stacks up to America’s best 12. Where is the UK takeover? I am waiting...

And you have 5 times as many people as we do. It's embarrassing. Did Sidnee just play the population card? BWAHAHA!!!

Okay let’s leave out Americans of European decent. That should even up the numbers. How are we doing compared the UK? Then go back 50 years... how are we doing? Don’t let the insecurity ruin boxing for you. We were all riding with the UK until Hearn came in talking crazy. Quit putting out misinformation and I will quit countering the sh&t out of you a hundred at a time.

But those fake bullets just allow me to feel just fine coming back with real live rounds.

[Sid-Knee]

Bwahahaha!!!

We can dish it out but can't take it? What we say has substance and truth attached to it. Yours is made up fantasy and slander. Big difference. But that's all you have after getting your shlt pushed in again by us.

Again, where did i say there was a UK takeover? I've already made myself clear but you're back to making things up in your head again aren't you?

AJ has a very good win over Wlad and 4 good wins over Ruiz, Povetkin, Whyte and Parker.

Fury has a great win over Wlad, and 4 good wins over Chisora x2 and Wilder x2.

Taylor has 3 good wins over Baranchyk, Prograis and Postal.

Warrington has a very good win over Frampton and a good win over Selby.

Frampton has 6 good wins over Cruz, Donaire, Quigg, Avalos and Martinez x2.

Callum Smith has a good win over Groves.

Saunders has 3 good wins over Lee, Eubank and Lemuiex.

Charlie Edwards has a good win over Rosales.

Kal Yafai has 2 good wins over Concepcion and Rosales.

You get 1 point for a good win, 2 points for a very good win, and 3 points for a great win. Now add them up...

That's 32 points in total.

Now do the same with all your active fighters. No finished ones like Kell and Khan for us. They still have to have something left or on top of their game.

Give me your best shot. Then i'll move onto historical wins over you and drop you there too.

[Fire4231]

It’s not a tune up - the fight is purely to keep him active because clearly Fox and ESPN can’t put up the necessary money for the fight. Are you genuinely telling us that Fury should sit on the sidelines indefinitely until a Wilder fight can be made, earning no money and wasting all his training camps??

You know you messed up right... he said he is fighting Joshua because he couldn’t continue to wait on Wilder?

However you are now saying the same conditions disrupting Wilder are preventing the Joshua fight? So why not just get a tune up and finish the business with Wilder?

See you guys can’t have it both ways. Which is it bro? This doesn’t past the smell test. Feels like a duck when he realized he can’t cheat in the third fight. We are on to him.

And are you seriously telling me you believe Wilder’s claim that Fury fought with egg weights in his hands?

Yep I seriously believe it is highly likely. I think he is capable and so does Wilder’s doctor and X-Rays. Btw so does Nicholas Asberry A guy who hates Wilder but document Fury’s actions before the fight. By the way so does Anthony Joshua he told Asberry that he knew Tyson has been doing this for some time. So does the dent visible in the side of Wilders head that can’t be explained by a gloved punch. Can’t wait to hear why this shouldn’t be investigated.

Despite Jay Deas and others observing Fury in a room full of cameras, and Fury taking off his gloves in full view immediately after the fight? Needless to mention the impracticality of having them for an entire fight?

Wait... Please help me understand your credibility on the topic. Unless you were a cheat removing padding and putting objects in gloves we don’t know how comfortable it is. It’s like a guy who doesn’t know how to hack telling us the system is impregnable. We also don’t know what pain it would be for a well wrapped hand To fight for less than a full fight.. Stop bro you don’t know. That’s why the WBC should have launched and investigation.

https://eggweights.com/pages/boxing-mma

If you seriously think Wilder’s claim is plausible, then there really is no reasoning possible with you. I’m afraid you are completely lost.

Keep your fear bro. Why is it so hard to wrap your mind around the idea that a guy caught cheating before could be potentially cheating again? That a guy without power can suddenly dent a man’s skull in a very sharp way through a full padded glove? How come no other boxer in history has legally been able to show this capability?

Why is it in a sport where boxers are caught cheating all the time and even when earnest like Tank accused of cheating... why is it with all the evidence this is not even a possibility?

Man you can’t answer these questions because your fragile ego won’t allow you to. You are desperately holding out for this win. But if he cheated it is meaningless. A black eye on boxing and his legacy.

We deserve real answers either way. The asterisk will be there until properly investigated or he wins a third fight clean under current scrutiny. But for now we will keep shining the light on what could have been called attempted murder.

If Wilder had the same evidence against him you and all of boxing would be trying to put him under the jail. How do you deal with that part of you that will allow this injustice. In a world of Resto and Margarito happened how are you okay with out having an investigation?

[Fire4231]

We can dish it out but can't take it? What we say has substance and truth attached to it. Yours is made up fantasy and slander. Big difference. But that's all you have after getting your shlt pushed in again by us.
Yet you can’t win an argument with your truth?

Again, where did i say there was a UK takeover? I've already made myself clear but you're back to making things up in your head again aren't you?
Shut the **** up bro we all can read.

AJ has a very good win over Wlad and 4 good wins over Ruiz, Povetkin, Whyte and Parker. Oh yeah what were they ranked at the time? Vlad made AJ number one... the loss to Ruiz made him number 3. What don’t you get? Technically he should be number four because Ortiz has only lost to number two twice.

Fury has a great win over Wlad, and 4 good wins over Chisora x2 and Wilder x2. Yes Fury is number one. You keep naming these guys like Chisora who are fun to watch but only considered a top fighter in the UK.

Taylor has 3 good wins over Baranchyk, Prograis and Postal.
I said Taylor is the goods where is the debate?

Warrington has a very good win over Frampton and a good win over Selby.Bro What is this the justification list? Warrington needs to fight across the pond. Frampton is decent but never fought guys like GRJ and Navarrete.

Frampton has 6 good wins over Cruz, Donaire, Quigg, Avalos and Martinez x2. Santa Cruz waxed him why no Gary Russell Jr?

Callum Smith has a good win over Groves. How fresh is Groves?

Saunders has 3 good wins over Lee, Eubank and Lemuiex. Sanders was good but he is a head case didn’t he struggle against Shefat Isufi. Should he be struggling against Shefat Isufi?

Charlie Edwards has a good win over Rosales.
Reaching
Kal Yafai has 2 good wins over Concepcion and Rosales.
Reaching

You get 1 point for a good win, 2 points for a very good win, and 3 points for a great win. Now add them up...
WtF are you talking about? You just making up British poits systems?
That's 32 points in total. Bwahaha wtf is this?

Now do the same with all your active fighters. No finished ones like Kell and Khan for us. They still have to have something left or on top of their game.

here is the Allstar team...

- Chris Colbert
- Shakur Stevens
- Gary Russell Jr
- Tank Davis
- Teophemo Lopex
- Devin Haney
- Mikey Garcia
- Errol Spence
- Keith Thurman
- Danny Garcia
- Shawn Porter
- Jarron Ennis
- Virgil Ortiz
- Jermell Charlo
- Anyone Else at 154
- Jermall Charlo
- Demetrius Andrade
- Caleb Smith
- Edger Berlanga
- David Benevidez
- Deontay Wilder
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Give me your best shot. Then i'll move onto historical wins over you and drop you there too.

Don’t have all day bro we know America’s Glory through time. The best that ever did it are from the US