Does Lomachenko Losing His 2nd Pro Fight PROVES NO MATTER AMATUER RECORD...

[Ochoa780]

Back then it didnt matter as much. The amateurs weren't made to prepare fighters for the pros but with the rule changes it should help more now..

Theres plenty if amateur fighters that are very good and dont have good pro careers. But I mean it was a promotional point to push that aspect of his career

I feel he woulda had more success then hes had (which hes had a lot) if he had gone pro 3-5 years earlier

[The Big Dunn]

Imo what a fighter does as an amateur is relative only to how they will be marketed in the pros.

A gold medal or a great amateur record is something promoters can sell to fans and TV.

If you aren’t matched right your amateur record is meaningless imo.

[sicko]

I've NEVER believed that a great Amateur or even a Olympic Gold Medalist guarantees greatness as a pro. Pros and Amateurs are not the same, 3 Rounds with Headgear is totally different from 10-12 Rounds and no Headgear

Loma still have achieved Greatness in a short period of time as a Pro!

Robeisy Ramirez one of the greatest Amateurs I've ever seen but have yet to impress as a pro

[ELPacman]

You guys take this whole undefeated or needing no more than a loss or two too damn serious in gauging how great a fighter is. A fighter ultimately is great for his overall accomplishments in what he's done.

I still think Loma is a TERRIFIC fighter. Heck, I practically want to erase his Lopez loss. I just saw him outmuscled by a larger guy. Remember the saying, a great big fighter typically beats a great little fighter? That still holds up. Loma gave a great account of himself despite that in the second half. If it was a 15 rd fight, who knows? Either way, Loma is still great at the lower weights and beats 99% of the guys down there.

Either you're riding the Lopez hype train too much or your hate for Loma is too strong. Not sure. It was a good win for Lopez but not entirely impressive. We didn't see a total domination at all. The only memories I have left from that fight are mostly Loma's 5 punch combinations he was landing and snapping Teo's head back towards the 2nd half. It was a good win for Teo but not a dominant win. Let's not forget he was the bigger/stronger guy in there also.

[boliodogs]

Does lomachenko lost to Salido in his 2nd pro fight** proves that no matter your amateur accomplishments, it shouldn't hold any influence over how you are ranked or moved in the pros.

Salido is a fighter someone like Lomachenko on paper should have won against easily.

And this isnt the only case, Robizy great amateur record lost, verdejo lost, etc etc. Tons of amateur greats who pretty much couldn't really hack it in the pros.

Should it be disallowed to allow a fighter to compete for a title so quick? Just because of his amateur record when everything states that every fighter no matter how great in the amateur needs to adjust to the pros?

** really his 8 pro fight, everyone over looks his 6 WSB pro style 5 rounder bouts he had.

First Salido did not even try to make weight and came in overweight giving him an advantage. 2nd Salido got away with a huge amount of illegal low blows weakening Loma. 3rd it was very close fight and one judge and many viewers thought Loma won. Loma had a great run right after that loss beating many champions in 3 different weight classes. He offered a Salido a rematch soon after the loss several times and salido wanted no part of a high paying rematch. The pros are different than the amateurs and take some ajustment as you say. Loma was not ready for Salido's tricks and it caught him by surprise. Loma learned difference between amateur and pro quickly.

[TheCell8]

Amateur success is usually a good barometer on how well someone will be turn out as a pro.

You can't ignore the fact that Lomachenko is a 3 Div champ and holds record for fastest to get a title. If he retires, his pro career would be seen as a success.

Gvozdyk, Usyk, Golovkin, Beterbiev, Klitschkos all these fighters had extensive amateur careers and succeeded as pros.

Even on the American side GRJ, Demetrius Andrade, Andre Ward and Errol Spence all had extensive amateur careers and had successful pro careers.

The only exception is the odd Cuban or Brit who flames out.

[YNG]

1/3 of the Olympics Gold medalists that have turned pro, have won a title and some of the best of them didn't even turned pro.

[Outwest Exp 355]

He’s still a great fighter and he came into the sport fighting top opposition. People tend to lose fights when you’re constantly fighting the best guys out there.