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  • TheUptownKid
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    #81
    Originally posted by Larry_Rushmore
    Hispanics root for their boxers

    Eastern euros get praised by whites


    Historically and even now we have more african american champs and yet they get trashed when they win over and over again...
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    When African Americans win there is always so damn excuse..and when they lose this board celebrates like they just won the damn lotto

    but let African Americans do that with a Hispanic or an eastern euro and we are called racist...


    THEY LITERALLY STILL TRY TO ATTACK FLOYD WHEN NONE OF THE FIGHTERS THEY SUPPORT HAVE DONE 1/10TH OF WHAT HE HAS DONE.
    Facts and haters gonna hate. We see it and it’s evident, but like just keep watching me squirm every time we win.

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    • TheUptownKid
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      #82
      Originally posted by OnlytheTruth
      This forum doesn't exactly advertise the race of an individual so you can never know unless someone makes it obvious.
      I'm White and British, most of my sporting heroes are black.

      How many sporting GOATs are black?
      Mohammed Ali.
      Michael Jordan.
      Thierry Henry.
      Mo Farah.
      Usain Bolt.

      There is a long list of black sporting greats to follow on from that. If I criticise one of them, deal with it.
      Criticism is fair, keep that energy across the board or get called out for it and you can deal with that.

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      • *Makaveli*
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        #83
        Originally posted by Larry_Rushmore
        Hispanics root for their boxers

        Eastern euros get praised by whites


        Historically and even now we have more african american champs and yet they get trashed when they win over and over again...
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        When African Americans win there is always so damn excuse..and when they lose this board celebrates like they just won the damn lotto

        but let African Americans do that with a Hispanic or an eastern euro and we are called racist...


        THEY LITERALLY STILL TRY TO ATTACK FLOYD WHEN NONE OF THE FIGHTERS THEY SUPPORT HAVE DONE 1/10TH OF WHAT HE HAS DONE.
        If your a fan of boxing ethnicity shouldnt come into it .
        Theres been plenty of great African Americans , from Ali to Foreman , Tyson , Sugar Ray , Hagler , Evander . It just happens that all the African Americans right now are garbage and Floyd is a knob but he is great , just a knobbish great

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        • Noelanthony
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          #84
          Originally posted by OnlytheTruth
          This forum doesn't exactly advertise the race of an individual so you can never know unless someone makes it obvious.
          I'm White and British, most of my sporting heroes are black.

          How many sporting GOATs are black?
          Mohammed Ali.
          Michael Jordan.
          Thierry Henry.
          Mo Farah.
          Usain Bolt.

          There is a long list of black sporting greats to follow on from that. If I criticise one of them, deal with it.
          I like that and you are right let me return the favour

          White sporting greats

          Jimmy Bullard ( great footballer)
          Jimmy saville( always had a well ironed Adidas tracksuit)
          Henry Cooper ( nearly beat the great Ali)
          Frank Bruno ( you can have him.... your welcome)
          Nigel Benn( you can have him too)

          I’m just playing with you, I follow football as that’s the main sport in the U.K. and hand on heart I have never thought, we need more black players in the team I support. If you are good you are good .i don’t use colour to form my opinions.However, if I have endured deep seated racism on a daily basis perhaps my paradigm will be different

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          • TheUptownKid
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            #85
            Originally posted by Rockin'
            So are you saying that there are NO black fighters that are considered great? You should listen to Rip Chudd and stop your whining.

            Sandy Saddler is not considered great?
            Marvin Hagler is not considered great?
            Ray Leonard is not considered great?
            Jack Johnson is not considered great?
            Mike Tyson is not considered great?
            'The greatest' Muhammas Ali is not considered great?

            2 people fight and, usually, the better man wins.

            You are going over the edge with this stuff Larry. Waaa! .......Rockin'
            We have a lot of people posting about the greats, but they don’t mention that people complained that Ali was soft back in his day, complained that srl was too pretty and scared to fight, said Floyd was greedy and didn’t want to fight, and we can go on and on. America has hated on black fighters for generations going back to Jack Johnson, we just seem to forget it all once they retire. Race is a real issue in the world, it is a real issue in boxing and like the world people who aren’t black often choose not to understand.

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            • Noelanthony
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              #86
              Originally posted by *Makaveli*
              If your a fan of boxing ethnicity shouldnt come into it .
              Theres been plenty of great African Americans , from Ali to Foreman , Tyson , Sugar Ray , Hagler , Evander . It just happens that all the African Americans right now are garbage and Floyd is a knob but he is great , just a knobbish great
              Lol they are not all garbage but if you do a compare and contrast then perhaps they are. However, if you look at the inclusion and rise of blacks in other sports that might explain why once strong super athletic individuals who once saw boxing as a way out are trying different sports. The same goes for all races though not just blacks

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              • Rockin'
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                #87
                Originally posted by TheUptownKid
                Race is a real issue in the world, it is a real issue in boxing and like the world people who aren’t black often choose not to understand.
                Only with the fans is it an issue. It's funny, as a fighter I never gave a sheet what race you were. And neither did my fellow fighters. Either you fought your ass off and gained respect or you did not. It had nothing to do with race, with the fighters........Rockin'

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  When posters apply equal standards to Eastern European boxers as black boxers, you equate that to them being sh-tted on.

                  I don’t understand exactly how that works.

                  If for example you criticize Floyd’s win over jmm because he “brought him up” then how is it sh-tting on an Eastern European if you say the same about Loma over Rigo and ggg over Brook?

                  If Black boxers get criticized for not fighting guys and having a weak resume, how is it sh-tting on Eastern Europeans when pointing these things out about their resumes?

                  In short, how is it unfair to take everything guys like you have posted about Floyd, Roy, Ward, bhop over the years and apply it to Eastern European boxers now?
                  Actually, Floyd fans praised his win over JMM as one of his best. Boasted about it for years. So when Loma beat Rigo...who many Floyd fans predicted would school Loma, suddenly it was a bad win over a smaller, older opponent. The circumstances were different. Floyd agreed to a catch weight and then didn't bother to make weight, and refused to be weighed on the day of the fight. Rigo could have had the fight at 126, but played himself by pricing himself out. There was only a seven pound difference between them on fight night.

                  When Teo won against Loma, all of the sudden Floyd fans came out of the woodwork to celebrate and ride Teo's ****. That comes from Loma hatred, and more importantly, Eastern-Euro hate. They did the same things with GGG and Kovalev. There is a distinct pattern of bias against EU fighters.

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                  • Noelanthony
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                    Actually, Floyd fans praised his win over JMM as one of his best. Boasted about it for years. So when Loma beat Rigo...who many Floyd fans predicted would school Loma, suddenly it was a bad win over a smaller, older opponent. The circumstances were different. Floyd agreed to a catch weight and then didn't bother to make weight, and refused to be weighed on the day of the fight. Rigo could have had the fight at 126, but played himself by pricing himself out. There was only a seven pound difference between them on fight night.

                    When Teo won against Loma, all of the sudden Floyd fans came out of the woodwork to celebrate and ride Teo's ****. That comes from Loma hatred, and more importantly, Eastern-Euro hate. They did the same things with GGG and Kovalev. There is a distinct pattern of bias against EU fighters.
                    It was a good win over Jmm having been retired for 2 years. There is no excuses about missing weight and he had to pay 600,000 and so he should. Maybe not having to make weight for 2 years could have played a part but it is what it is and he was financially penalised. As for Loma I didn’t think much of him until he beat Rigo because for me he didn’t use his size to win. I supported him right up till the 12th round where Leo nearly stopped him.Im from Europe so I don’t hate European fighters

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                      Actually, Floyd fans praised his win over JMM as one of his best. Boasted about it for years. So when Loma beat Rigo...who many Floyd fans predicted would school Loma, suddenly it was a bad win over a smaller, older opponent. The circumstances were different. Floyd agreed to a catch weight and then didn't bother to make weight, and refused to be weighed on the day of the fight. Rigo could have had the fight at 126, but played himself by pricing himself out. There was only a seven pound difference between them on fight night.

                      When Teo won against Loma, all of the sudden Floyd fans came out of the woodwork to celebrate and ride Teo's ****. That comes from Loma hatred, and more importantly, Eastern-Euro hate. They did the same things with GGG and Kovalev. There is a distinct pattern of bias against EU fighters.
                      It’s because of Loma why I have gone off Tank because he appeared scared and started talking about Only fighting him on PPV

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