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  • BangEM
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    #11
    Originally posted by Toffee
    After one round I'd discounted Usyk from doing anything at heavyweight, even if I still thought he'd win this fight.

    Now I'm undecided again. Clearly he can take a punch from a big man, but not much was that clean from Del.

    Answered a few questions but plenty still left. He didn't quite look like a heavyweight.

    On the scoring, I can see why Chisora thinks he won. He won the first two clear, the next two were close (he'll feel he won them, I thought they split them) and there were two or three after his second wind where he pushed the pace.

    I had it pretty comfortably to Usyk though. He just did all the cleaner work. Even scores after 6 and Usyk won every round from the halfway point - 9-3.
    But Chisora doesn’t punch that hard tho.

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    • EliasAlexander
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      #12
      Dude these british commentators are pretty ridiculous.. After the third rd Chisaora had a couple hards body shots and the occaisional lazy jab but other than that only Usyk had crisp landing on target shots that hurt. I dont know what people were watching. He should have followed it up and taken to Chisora more to not leave it in the air at all but generally he basically owned it even if he didn't quite take it home in the 2nd half.

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      • Toffee
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        #13
        Originally posted by BangEM
        But Chisora doesn’t punch that hard tho.
        18 stone professional boxers can punch, mate.

        Yes, Usyk will take worse against an AJ or Fury. But he showed he can take a big, average puncher's power. Even if slightly uncomfortably.

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        • BangEM
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          #14
          Originally posted by Toffee
          18 stone professional boxers can punch, mate.

          Yes, Usyk will take worse against an AJ or Fury. But he showed he can take a big, average puncher's power. Even if slightly uncomfortably.
          It’s relative. Taking Chisora’s punch isn’t the same as the big punchers in the division.

          They’ll slow him down with body shots and take his head off.

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          • amuroray
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            #15
            He wants his money and a shot at a chance at the champ. I dont blame him.

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            • Scopedog
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              #16
              I think his footwork and precision are by far the best in the division. He moves like a lightweight. That said, even though he's never been down, he doesn't seem to have a great chin or a big punch, which are two things that you can't really do without if you're going to dethrone the division kingpins. I do think I'd pick him to win against most current heavyweights, but not Joshua or Fury, and those are the guys he needs to beat to win the belts.

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              • Earl-Hickey
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                #17
                Originally posted by adotd
                Am I the only one that thinks Chisora won?
                It's possible if you give him every swing round but overall I thought Usyk deserved a close decision.

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                • JakeTheBoxer
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                  #18
                  Usyk is the new David Haye. Unfortunately, there is no Valuev around nowadays.

                  Usyk will have some success against Hunter ( he already beat him), maybe Parker, maybe Whyte.

                  No chance Usyk beats somebody strong like Wilder, Fury, Joshua, DDD, Joyce, Ruiz, Ortiz.

                  Even Helenius probably knocks him out with his heavy hands.

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                  • Earl-Hickey
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                    Usyk is the new David Haye. Unfortunately, there is no Valuev around nowadays.

                    Usyk will have some success against Hunter ( he already beat him), maybe Parker, maybe Whyte.

                    No chance Usyk beats somebody strong like Wilder, Fury, Joshua, DDD, Joyce, Ruiz, Ortiz.

                    Even Helenius probably knocks him out with his heavy hands.
                    I'd strongly favour Parker against Usyk

                    Parker has a much better chin than Chisora, equal power, WAY faster hands, better stamina and more range.

                    It'd look like the hughie fury fight as Usyk realises he can't hurt Parker and Parker isn't going to gas out like Chisora did.

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                    • JakeTheBoxer
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                      #20
                      I would love to see Usyk fighting Wilder. Just to see if Usyk is able to keep Wilder`s right hand away for 12 rounds.

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