Comments Thread For: Jaime Munguia Fights Through Fire, Stops Johnson in Six Due To Severe Cut

[Boricua181]

I had to tell 3 people this today. They all changed their tune after hearing it. Two of them thought he was 28.

Jaime Munguia just turned 24, on 10/6/20, but he's already held a title at 154, and has 36-0 (29 KO's). That's a great record, and the brother got heart, can punch, has a sturdy chin, and has some decent boxing skills. The problem is that he lacks the necessary defensive skills to compete with the champions at 160, and even some o0f the ranked fighters. Once he's in a firefight with the top 10-15 fighters, he's going to be in a world of hurt. The advantages of height, reach, and weight that he took full use of at the 154 pound division don't apply at 160. That said if he hasn't learned proper defense in 36 fights, chances are he wont in another 36. Under these circumstances it doesn't matter how young he is, because he's rated number 6 i9n the world by Boxingscene. Which means he has to fight the top fighters, or lose his ranking.

[Boricua181]

I wasn't excusing it, just basically saying it's pretty common. No, as the other fighter I wouldn't want to lose or get a draw like that. Hell even if I was TJ or Rozier I would be embarrassed by getting a W or draw even with a massive asterisks beside it. They would have lost on the cards anyway though so it's all a moot point in the end.

At the time nobody knew what the scoring was on the cards, it was a closely contested fight between those two. I thought that Tureano Johnson was ahead in the fight, he was forcing Munguia to give up ground, and was landing what I thought were the harder punches. It was a really good fight, Rozier didn't have to muck it up, by reminding us how underhanded boxing could be. Okay brother those were just my thought on a real entertaining fight, between to gallant warriors.

[TheMyspaceDayz]

Jaime Munguia just turned 24, on 10/6/20, but he's already held a title at 154, and has 36-0 (29 KO's). That's a great record, and the brother got heart, can punch, has a sturdy chin, and has some decent boxing skills. The problem is that he lacks the necessary defensive skills to compete with the champions at 160, and even some o0f the ranked fighters. Once he's in a firefight with the top 10-15 fighters, he's going to be in a world of hurt. The advantages of height, reach, and weight that he took full use of at the 154 pound division don't apply at 160. That said if he hasn't learned proper defense in 36 fights, chances are he wont in another 36. Under these circumstances it doesn't matter how young he is, because he's rated number 6 i9n the world by Boxingscene. Which means he has to fight the top fighters, or lose his ranking.

The human brain doesn’t stop developing until 25 and Morales just started training the guy. I see a lot of room for improvement. Give the guy some time and he won’t just stand there getting hit. He will instead use offence as his defense. It’s the Morales way.

[YoungManRumble]

At the time nobody knew what the scoring was on the cards, it was a closely contested fight between those two. I thought that Tureano Johnson was ahead in the fight, he was forcing Munguia to give up ground, and was landing what I thought were the harder punches. It was a really good fight, Rozier didn't have to muck it up, by reminding us how underhanded boxing could be. Okay brother those were just my thought on a real entertaining fight, between to gallant warriors.

Yeah I was speaking from hindsight. I had picked Tureano to win by KO, late rounds initially, for the pickem league, not a wager, then changed it to mid rounds. I may have picked with my heart for a guy that has massive heart but I wasn't disappointed in what he was doing in there. Other than getting caught too much coming in and was ripe for that uppercut.

I'm re-watching parts of it now and I think he got his lip cut in the 2nd round and it got opened up bit by bit as the action progressed, until that faithful shot that split it all the way through. Maybe I'm wrong or looking too far into it, but there was a decent little trickle of blood down Munguia's chest and right shoulder during the rest period after rnd 2 that certainly wasn't his and I don't think it was from Johnson's nose. They didn't show TJ's corner at all in that rest period, but after the 3rd round you can clearly see Johnson's cutman putting the cotton swab on the same area that gets blasted apart in the 6th. Round 5 highlights during the rest also shows Tureano eating a big uppercut and his top lip flaps up pretty noticeably.

It was impressive the damage Munguia did after seemingly shooting his wad in the 6th. Johnson couldn't fully capitalize on it and then the levee finally broke.

[Boricua181]

Yeah I was speaking from hindsight. I had picked Tureano to win by KO, late rounds initially, for the pickem league, not a wager, then changed it to mid rounds. I may have picked with my heart for a guy that has massive heart but I wasn't disappointed in what he was doing in there. Other than getting caught too much coming in and was ripe for that uppercut.

I'm re-watching parts of it now and I think he got his lip cut in the 2nd round and it got opened up bit by bit as the action progressed, until that faithful shot that split it all the way through. Maybe I'm wrong or looking too far into it, but there was a decent little trickle of blood down Munguia's chest and right shoulder during the rest period after rnd 2 that certainly wasn't his and I don't think it was from Johnson's nose. They didn't show TJ's corner at all in that rest period, but after the 3rd round you can clearly see Johnson's cutman putting the cotton swab on the same area that gets blasted apart in the 6th. Round 5 highlights during the rest also shows Tureano eating a big uppercut and his top lip flaps up pretty noticeably.

It was impressive the damage Munguia did after seemingly shooting his wad in the 6th. Johnson couldn't fully capitalize on it and then the levee finally broke.

Thanks for clarifying YoungManRumble, I respect your point of view, and appreciate the conversation on boxing. It's a good thing for Munguia that he kept throwing punches throughout the fight, because he was in for a long night if he hadn't landed that uppercut.

[ramses07]

Jaime Munguia just turned 24, on 10/6/20, but he's already held a title at 154, and has 36-0 (29 KO's). That's a great record, and the brother got heart, can punch, has a sturdy chin, and has some decent boxing skills. The problem is that he lacks the necessary defensive skills to compete with the champions at 160, and even some o0f the ranked fighters. Once he's in a firefight with the top 10-15 fighters, he's going to be in a world of hurt. The advantages of height, reach, and weight that he took full use of at the 154 pound division don't apply at 160. That said if he hasn't learned proper defense in 36 fights, chances are he wont in another 36. Under these circumstances it doesn't matter how young he is, because he's rated number 6 i9n the world by Boxingscene. Which means he has to fight the top fighters, or lose his ranking.

Normally id agree but I dont think he had any amateur experience, like I think he started fighting pro at 17 and didnt have any proper training.

Dude was just raw. Ive seen guys change it around and he still has time.

Canelo turned pro at 15, but he had a good amt of amateur experience as well, and even then he still improved a lot from 23-28

[Boricua181]

The human brain doesn’t stop developing until 25 and Morales just started training the guy. I see a lot of room for improvement. Give the guy some time and he won’t just stand there getting hit. He will instead use offence as his defense. It’s the Morales way.

True as that might be The*******Dayz, it might not hold true Munguia. He may have already developed some bad habits in his boxing style, that'll be hard to correct. Once a fighter gets punched in the face they ditch their fight plan, and revert back to what they've aways done. Only time will tell if he can improve his defense with his new trainer, or not. In the mean time I'll continue watching his fights, because he's got some game, and is entertaining as hell. Part of that entertainment comes from his lack of defense, which makes his fights pitched battles.

[Bronx2245]

If Andrade can't get a fight w/ Munguia, then he should leave MatchRoom and DAZN ASAP!

[Boricua181]

Normally id agree but I dont think he had any amateur experience, like I think he started fighting pro at 17 and didnt have any proper training.

Dude was just raw. Ive seen guys change it around and he still has time.

Canelo turned pro at 15, but he had a good amt of amateur experience as well, and even then he still improved a lot from 23-28

Canelo did improve his skill with time, I remember a replay where he made Daniel Jacobs miss 3, or 4 punches. His movement to avoid those punches were masterful. As of late though I think he's hurting his career, by wanting to fight an unknown, after a long layoff. He has to fight Charlo, Andrade, GGG, Benevidez, Plant, and Smith, he wont hold onto that #1 spot much longer without fighting. Back to Munguia he he definitely has talent, and throws some good combinations although sloppily at times. sometimes in the process of throwing all those punches, he leaves himself wide open. If and when he gets caught by a big puncher, or well timed counter, coming in recklessly like that. The impact will be doubled, because he'll be virtually walking into the punch, with all of his energy to deliver his own punch. I appreciate your opinion, and insight ramses07, let's see who he fights next, and how well he does.

[Jab jab boom]

Munguia is basically a bigger Brandon Rios. He'll be washed up by 30. Especially if they finally step up his competition.