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  • Ake-Dawg
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    #11
    Originally posted by BamBamMurphy
    The fact that Finkel has not filed an injuction or threatened any legal action means they dont have a leg to stand on, considering Haymons business savvy and Finkel only having Wilder to manage it is ludicrous they let this happen.
    If he keeps fighting he needs to get new trainers and a real promoter to maximize his earnings before retiring, get some highlight reel knockouts against Kownacki/Kabayel/Martin and earn a shot against Fury/Joshua or Usyk if he picks up the WBO
    Why would he? He can file after Fury fights someone and then if he loses or doesn't look good can claim lost revenue on Wilder's behalf. Finkel said exactly what he needed to say for their future lawsuit. Wilder is ready and expects to fight Fury in December.

    All contracts go through Al Haymon. Bob will play this in the media while Wilder stays quiet to ensure there are no public statements that can be used against him.

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    • Ake-Dawg
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      #12
      Originally posted by REDEEMER
      Remember when you and a host of others said Hearn can not force Ruiz into the Rematch and he was threatened by legal action, he even promised everyone he wouldn’t fight AJ unless it was in the U.S and you guys rolled with it ?


      If you really know about legal things you know you don’t want or wish a fight to happen ,you file a breach of contract and we know that’s not going to happen as it would be a waste of Wilders money like it was a waste for Ruiz .
      Let's not revise history to try and make a weak point. Hearn paid Ruiz more money just as I said Ruiz was angling for.

      Further, its not a breach of contract until Fury signs to fight someone else and actually fights them. No breach has happened yet. Be well my guy.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
        Why would he? He can file after Fury fights someone and then if he loses or doesn't look good can claim lost revenue on Wilder's behalf. Finkel said exactly what he needed to say for their future lawsuit. Wilder is ready and expects to fight Fury in December.

        All contracts go through Al Haymon. Bob will play this in the media while Wilder stays quiet to ensure there are no public statements that can be used against him.
        Now you’re just making your own book up here . If Fury fights someone the period to file any lawsuits would be void ,there isnt an unlimited time limit to file any legal disputes. They would also need proof it is Furys fault for any lost revenue Wilder faces with an expired contract ,so that’s just not going to happen .


        The truth is if they haven’t filed any case as soon as the contract expired they have no case . Arum will also use that team Wilder made no efforts to negotiate a fight which is their job if they are seeking a rematch ,Team Fury is not responsible for that .
        Last edited by REDEEMER; 10-26-2020, 10:02 PM.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
          Let's not revise history to try and make a weak point. Hearn paid Ruiz more money just as I said Ruiz was angling for.

          Further, its not a breach of contract until Fury signs to fight someone else and actually fights them. No breach has happened yet. Be well my guy.
          Hearn paid Ruiz like 2 million more ,that isn’t the reason the fight went on it’s because that’s an actual breach and it wouldn’t end good for Andy , so no the reason was not to waste time with AJs career because he wanted to get that fight out of the way .

          A breach is when a date is signed or scheduled not when they step in the ring and when the other guy is saying he’s not fighting Wilder . However it’s not a breach ,if it was a counter claim to file a lawsuit would have happened already but you can make as many posts as you like ,I know it’s a foolish topic ,Finkle knows it to that’s why posters will be claiming a lawsuit is coming but not the actual people involved. Ha
          Last edited by REDEEMER; 10-26-2020, 10:09 PM.

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          • Froch_uppercut
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            #15
            Originally posted by Watcherw1
            Hearn admitted the 50 million was real
            No he didn't.
            He said "send us the contract" and they wouldn't. They expected the 4 belt hw champion to agree without seeing t&c's.
            Jokers- Wilder and his lies and team of liars. Total hype job.

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            • Zelda
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              #16
              It could be that they both agree fighting at this point in time, without crowds, ain't good for business. So, just like they did after the first fight, they need to take a break and do the rematch when times are more favorable.

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                #17
                Originally posted by BamBamMurphy
                The fact that Finkel has not filed an injuction or threatened any legal action means they dont have a leg to stand on, considering Haymons business savvy and Finkel only having Wilder to manage it is ludicrous they let this happen.
                If he keeps fighting he needs to get new trainers and a real promoter to maximize his earnings before retiring, get some highlight reel knockouts against Kownacki/Kabayel/Martin and earn a shot against Fury/Joshua or Usyk if he picks up the WBO
                That’s the thing, remember when Andy Ruiz KO Joshua, and the PBC cultists started all those “Don’t rematch AJ” stuffs?

                The mere fact that Ruiz started getting too big for his boots and was looking for a way out of the rematch, he got a legal notification filed by Team AJ.

                To reenforce their legal power on the contract that he signed.

                The fact that all Finkel says so far is “We are ready for December 19th and that’s Arum’s opinion” in regards to the contract been expired, shows me that Finkel knows it’s over.

                They really failed Wilder but he isn’t a smart person upstairs.

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                • Blackstarr
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
                  Why would he? He can file after Fury fights someone and then if he loses or doesn't look good can claim lost revenue on Wilder's behalf. Finkel said exactly what he needed to say for their future lawsuit. Wilder is ready and expects to fight Fury in December.

                  All contracts go through Al Haymon. Bob will play this in the media while Wilder stays quiet to ensure there are no public statements that can be used against him.
                  If Wilder is determined to face Fury in December/early 2021 as everyone in his team claims apart from the man himself, then why would they wait until December to file legal action, therefore eliminating any possibility of a fight in that time frame and wasting Wilder’s apparent training camp?

                  The purpose of legal action is to enforce an obligation for Fury to fight Wilder next. Waiting until after Fury has fought someone else would be like shutting the barn door after the horse has already bolted - the damage has already been done.

                  Deep down I’m sure you already know this, but are too blinded by bias to admit this publicly. In this case it’s better to keep your mouth shut on the matter, just like Wilder is doing, rather than making yourself look ****** with ridiculous comments in defence of someone that probably has no idea who you are.

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                  • Ake-Dawg
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Blackstarr
                    If Wilder is determined to face Fury in December/early 2021 as everyone in his team claims apart from the man himself, then why would they wait until December to file legal action, therefore eliminating any possibility of a fight in that time frame and wasting Wilder’s apparent training camp?

                    The purpose of legal action is to enforce an obligation for Fury to fight Wilder next. Waiting until after Fury has fought someone else would be like shutting the barn door after the horse has already bolted - the damage has already been done.

                    Deep down I’m sure you already know this, but are too blinded by bias to admit this publicly. In this case it’s better to keep your mouth shut on the matter, just like Wilder is doing, rather than making yourself look ****** with ridiculous comments in defence of someone that probably has no idea who you are.
                    He doesn't have to be determined to fight Fury. This is likely about forcing Fury's team to pay Wilder to not fight.

                    Sorry to bust your bubble, but I'm not personally impacted by what Wilder does or doesn't do. I just commented on what I believed to be occurring. But if it makes you feel better, ooooo I'm so hurt by your comment...buuurrrrrrnnn.

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                    • Ake-Dawg
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by REDEEMER
                      Now you’re just making your own book up here . If Fury fights someone the period to file any lawsuits would be void ,there isnt an unlimited time limit to file any legal disputes. They would also need proof it is Furys fault for any lost revenue Wilder faces with an expired contract ,so that’s just not going to happen .


                      The truth is if they haven’t filed any case as soon as the contract expired they have no case . Arum will also use that team Wilder made no efforts to negotiate a fight which is their job if they are seeking a rematch ,Team Fury is not responsible for that .
                      I think the idea that the contract is expired is the point of legal conflict for which any lawsuit would be substantiated. So if you are just accepting of what Arum says then there is no need to respond further.

                      Lastly, there was nothing to negotiate. The only thing the rematch hadn't had was a date and venue. Bob has acknowledged that they've agreed to multiple dates including one in mid December which ESPN rejected due to college football conflict.

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