Lomachenko should probably retire.

[El_Mero]

Maybe Davis will Finally Grow a pair and face him...

[Boxing-1013]

He needs to get that shoulder figured out for sure. Doesn't seem like the first surgery did much of anything. Maybe needs to adapt what he is doing training wise too

That's not how surgeries work. These athletes aren't broke, they are able to afford better surgeons than normal people. The training involved in boxing is abnormal though. It is a physically tough sport and no surgeon in the world can repair his shoulder to the point where it will never re-injure. Boxing is also a sport where your shoulders will be in use with literally every punch or block. That shoulder will be an issue for the rest of his career no matter which surgeon touches it.

Nothing d/ckhead about my comment “bud”. Go back to read it, then read yours. To any reasonable person my comment would appear to be a realistic conversation one would have in person in a discussion and your reply to me appears to be a very hostile, very unrealistic reply. It’s just not something one would encounter anywhere other than the internet. Only way anyone would speak that way to others is if 1. They are ******ed and have mental issues, are schizophrenic, or 2. Are on the internet and feel that they can stoop down to such a level of disrespect due to their being no real consequences for the way they carry themselves. So basically a scared/mentally ill individual.

Just my two cents.

You were trying to talk down to me, and trying to sound like you knew more than me, unsolicited, about the subject. And you showed in your comments that you weren't really correct anyway, and were in fact just talking out of your as.s while trying to sound better than someone.

I'm not offended, but I wouldn't talk to someone the way you tried to talk to me, not unless I was trying to talk down to them. In which case if they responded, I wouldn't be getting defensive and playing the victim.

I don't think your response to me was appropriate, so I let you know about it. I think you knew what you were doing, as anyone should be able to read your response to me, unsolicited, and be able to tell that you came at me first. We've had interactions on here before, and I'm sure you remember them. So I'm sure you saw an opportunity to try and make a snarky comment, and here we are.

If you come at someone and talk sh.it, don't be surprised when they talk sh.it back.

[-Kev-]

You were trying to talk down to me, and trying to sound like you knew more than me, unsolicited, about the subject. And you showed in your comments that you weren't really correct anyway, and were in fact just talking out of your as.s while trying to sound better than someone.

I'm not offended, but I wouldn't talk to someone the way you tried to talk to me, not unless I was trying to talk down to them. In which case if they responded, I wouldn't be getting defensive and playing the victim.

I don't think your response to me was appropriate, so I let you know about it. I think you knew what you were doing, as anyone should be able to read your response to me, unsolicited, and be able to tell that you came at me first. We've had interactions on here before, and I'm sure you remember them. So I'm sure you saw an opportunity to try and make a snarky comment, and here we are.

If you come at someone and talk sh.it, don't be surprised when they talk sh.it back.

That was a very respectful comment, empty of any rage, foul language, or insults. Your reply is unrealistic.

I didn’t know what I was talking about in my comments? You mean when I said the injury was worse than I thought? How does that justify your initial comment about him needing a better surgery.

Dude, i’m really amused you think I know you or remember you. Like did we meet in person or are you a former offender, classmate, friend, family member? My woman saw this whole encounter and you gave us both a good laugh. I really don’t remember any interactions with you. I discuss boxing on here, with coworkers, with offenders, with my woman, with my friends. I recall many names here on boxingscene, but no, I do not remember you. If I was here 24/7 like I was as a teen, i’d remember you. But i’m no longer here like that and I definitely don’t like coming here to have e-fights anymore. Your name, boxing ———, is also very generic and hard to actually remember. Do you realize how many posters here having “boxing” in their name? Seems like you remembered me and feel like I should remember you. But I really don’t. I actually put that on my mother.

[Boxing-1013]

That was a very respectful comment, empty of any rage, foul language, or insults. Your reply is unrealistic.

I didn’t know what I was talking about in my comments? You mean when I said the injury was worse than I thought? How does that justify your initial comment about him needing a better surgery.

Dude, i’m really amused you think I know you or remember you. Like did we meet in person or are you a former offender, classmate, friend, family member? My woman saw this whole encounter and you gave us both a good laugh. I really don’t remember any interactions with you. I discuss boxing on here, with coworkers, with offenders, with my woman, with my friends. I recall many names here on boxingscene, but no, I do not remember you. If I was here 24/7 like I was as a teen, i’d remember you. But i’m no longer here like that and I definitely don’t like coming here to have e-fights anymore. Your name, boxing ———, is also very generic and hard to actually remember. Do you realize how many posters here having “boxing” in their name? Seems like you remembered me and feel like I should remember you. But I really don’t. I actually put that on my mother.

OK sure buddy lol. You gave an awful long response about how you don't 'remember' me. Very believable. Not that I give a sh.it but your behavior says otherwise. And sounds like you're protesting too much.

You chimed in, unsolicited, trying to tell me I don't know how surgeries and injuries work. And you made some really silly comments in trying to explain your position.

I basically just came back to you and said 'shut up bit.ch, take a seat.' Now you're clutching your pearls and playing the victim after you started the confrontation. Complete bit.ch move, but not surprising unfortunately.

If you think your initial comment wasn't rude and patronizing, then you need an education on how to talk to people. You're pretty clueless if so.

[Boxing-1013]

I didn’t know what I was talking about in my comments? You mean when I said the injury was worse than I thought? How does that justify your initial comment about him needing a better surgery.

That's not how surgeries work. These athletes aren't broke, they are able to afford better surgeons than normal people. The training involved in boxing is abnormal though. It is a physically tough sport and no surgeon in the world can repair his shoulder to the point where it will never re-injure. Boxing is also a sport where your shoulders will be in use with literally every punch or block. That shoulder will be an issue for the rest of his career no matter which surgeon touches it.

In your initial comment, you said 3 silly comments. The first was trying to tell me how surgeries work. You don't have to be a genius to know that if you get re-injured, you either 1) need to do a better surgical repair or 2) need to adjust your training regimen, or 3) some combo of the 2. To argue against that is idiotic.

So in fact, you were proving that you don't know how surgeries work. While trying to be patronizing to someone who does know how they work. It's common sense, by the way.

As you continued to show further in your post. You said his shoulder will 100% re-injure again. The doctor himself refuted that claim, as anyone would. Saying there is a 100% chance of re-injury is just dumb. It doesn't even deserve a conversation about why it is dumb.

Your 3rd comment was more of the same; that the shoulder will be an issue for the rest of his career, again refuted by the doctor. Maybe it will, I'd say it likely will give him some sort of issue going forward, certainly if he doesn't change his training habits.

But to say it will 100% be an issue for the rest of his career, I mean you're talking out of your as.s and trying to come off as some expert, for no apparent reason.

Why you came at me directly with that nonsense, only you know the answer to that. But maybe in the future it will be a lesson for you on how to interact with people, if you didn't already know.

[-Kev-]

You sound so full of yourself that I think you are messing around, trolling.

OK sure buddy lol. You gave an awful long response about how you don't 'remember' me. Very believable. Not that I give a sh.it but your behavior says otherwise. And sounds like you're protesting too much.

You chimed in, unsolicited, trying to tell me I don't know how surgeries and injuries work. And you made some really silly comments in trying to explain your position.

I basically just came back to you and said 'shut up bit.ch, take a seat.' Now you're clutching your pearls and playing the victim after you started the confrontation. Complete bit.ch move, but not surprising unfortunately.

If you think your initial comment wasn't rude and patronizing, then you need an education on how to talk to people. You're pretty clueless if so.

I basically just came back to you and said 'shut up bit.ch, take a seat.'

I can see from your responses that you think really highly of yourself. It is as if you are cutting a WWE promo

In your initial comment, you said 3 silly comments. The first was trying to tell me how surgeries work. You don't have to be a genius to know that if you get re-injured, you either 1) need to do a better surgical repair or 2) need to adjust your training regimen, or 3) some combo of the 2. To argue against that is idiotic.

So in fact, you were proving that you don't know how surgeries work. While trying to be patronizing to someone who does know how they work. It's common sense, by the way.

As you continued to show further in your post. You said his shoulder will 100% re-injure again. The doctor himself refuted that claim, as anyone would. Saying there is a 100% chance of re-injury is just dumb. It doesn't even deserve a conversation about why it is dumb.

Your 3rd comment was more of the same; that the shoulder will be an issue for the rest of his career, again refuted by the doctor. Maybe it will, I'd say it likely will give him some sort of issue going forward, certainly if he doesn't change his training habits.

But to say it will 100% be an issue for the rest of his career, I mean you're talking out of your as.s and trying to come off as some expert, for no apparent reason.

Why you came at me directly with that nonsense, only you know the answer to that. But maybe in the future it will be a lesson for you on how to interact with people, if you didn't already know.

You don't have to be a genius to know that if you get re-injured, you either 1) need to do a better surgical repair or 2) need to adjust your training regimen, or 3) some combo of the 2. To argue against that is idiotic.

This is all wrong dude. Doesn't matter if you keep repeating it. Boxing is a tough sport. Doesn't matter if you had the perfect surgery, you will never be the same no matter what training, surgery, diet you get on. That is with almost any sport. You probably have never played a sport in your life talking like that. Probably some unathletic wimp, giving medical advice while looking dumb. Trust me, not many posters on here will agree with your comments. But then again I guess you're the all knowing "genius" who knows all about which type of surgeries boxers need. Maybe Klimas and Lomachenko should contact you.

The shoulder will be an issue for the rest of his career dude. Damn you're stubborn.

Don't be so upset about me not knowing who the hell you are dude. That is girly as f/ck. Wtf do you care if another man remembers you on a f/cking internet forum of thousands of members? You really have to be out of your damn mind to be roaming around with a name like "Boxing ####" in a boxing a forum, thinking you're going to be remembered. As if you're some celebrity or something. The f/ck is up with you?

You clearly remember who I am and you're obviously feeling some type of way, and it upsets you that I don't remember you. That is some young kid type stuff, you can't possibly be a grown man with responsibilities, talking like this.

[-Kev-]

This dude is rocking two *****s on his profile. Over here acting like he knows all about the medical field, training, and how a boxer can avoid aggravating a past injury. But doesn't even know how to remove those *****s. Smfh.

[hugh grant]

No, cant retire in a loss. It's how you react to a loss that makes you higher echelon atg.
Without losses you can't be higher echelon ATGs. But nobody wants losses but it's accepted as part of story.

[Lomadeaux]

No, cant retire in a loss. It's how you react to a loss that makes you higher echelon atg.
Without losses you can't be higher echelon ATGs. But nobody wants losses but it's accepted as part of story.

Stop replying to a troll.

[The Big Dunn]

No, cant retire in a loss. It's how you react to a loss that makes you higher echelon atg.
Without losses you can't be higher echelon ATGs. But nobody wants losses but it's accepted as part of story.

Without wins you can’t be an ATG. If you have wins that make you an ATG, then the losses don’t mitigate that.