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Why are/were Wilder fans so obsessed with Ortiz
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Last edited by REDEEMER; 10-21-2020, 05:51 AM.
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Originally posted by Juicy J View PostBig king kong fan but i'd like to see him vs Povetkin, Parker or Whyte to gauge how good he really is. Matter of fact, a round Robin between the four of them wouldn't be a bad idea.
To answer OP's question, Ortiz seems to be Wilder's most legitimate win which is why they latch on to him. Ortiz also had an 'avoided' reputation, whether that's true or not I'm not sure (I know Whyte turned him down) but it gives Wilder fans the, 'he fought and beat one of the most avoided fighters in the division' argument.
That's all there is to it really, if Wilder had some better wins on his record, Ortiz might not come up as much.
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this used to frustrate me a while back but fury showed what a hypejob wilder was, the whole world saw him beaten like a child, this so called hardest punching fighter of all time was absolutely EXPOSED
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Originally posted by 786 View PostThat would be great.
To answer OP's question, Ortiz seems to be Wilder's most legitimate win which is why they latch on to him. Ortiz also had an 'avoided' reputation, whether that's true or not I'm not sure (I know Whyte turned him down) but it gives Wilder fans the, 'he fought and beat one of the most avoided fighters in the division' argument.
That's all there is to it really, if Wilder had some better wins on his record, Ortiz might not come up as much.
He wasn’t avoided by anyone even skipped off his mandatory spot for AJ and blamed it on ducking when he had to fulfill one last contractual fight in a 3 fight deal on Matchroom while AJ was fighting his current mandatory who was Pulev , the last fight Ortiz was offered was actually Whyte in 2017 which makes him declined that match two times . HaLast edited by REDEEMER; 10-21-2020, 06:19 AM.
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It's Wilders best wins and although he didn't even pass his pre fight medical and is clearly 10 years older than he claims to be he is a highly regarded fighter which proves Wilder isn't that awful after all.
But just like Wilder he turned down career high pay days against Joshua and whyte, nobody has ducked Ortiz.Last edited by DaNeutral.; 10-21-2020, 06:14 AM.
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Originally posted by REDEEMER View PostOrtiz turned down a big PPV with Whyte in the U.K because he said he needed more time so Parker took him place . If you look at the date they fought you’ll see Ortiz fought on the exact same day against Razvan Cojanu . He wasn’t avoided by anyone even skipped off his mandatory for AJ .
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Originally posted by 786 View PostI thought there might be more to it than what I said but Ortiz seems to have built this reputation of being an avoided fighter which is fuel for Wilder fans when his resume is under question.
Ortiz in 2016/ 2017 was signed to a 3 fight deal by Matchroom and had to fulfill one last contractual fight in that 3 fight deal on Matchroom while AJ was fighting his current mandatory who was Pulev , the last fight Ortiz was offered was actually Whyte in 2017 which makes him declined that match two times . Instead of fighting Whyte and waiting for AJ he terminated his contract .Last edited by REDEEMER; 10-21-2020, 06:26 AM.
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They have to. He’s the best win of Wilder’s career. What else does Wilder have if you still have to take away the only guy he’s got?
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Originally posted by REDEEMER View PostI added this .
Ortiz in 2016/ 2017 was signed to a 3 fight deal by Matchroom and had to fulfill one last contractual fight in that 3 fight deal on Matchroom while AJ was fighting his current mandatory who was Pulev , the last fight Ortiz was offered was actually Whyte in 2017 which makes him declined that match two times . Instead of fighting Whyte and waiting for AJ he terminated his contract .
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Originally posted by Laligalaliga View PostIf you feel avoided, you and your team should make an offer. No body owes him any shhhit.
The only reason Ortiz is been talked about is because he is a southpaw lined up for wilder to feed on.
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