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  • Blackstarr
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    #51
    Originally posted by miked85
    Shelly finkel has said they want the trilogy

    Word is out that ESPN and fox don’t wanna do it without fans

    And yes do u think the USA is clamoring for a fury Joshua showdown?
    The same Shelly Finkle they said there wasn’t a 2-way rematch clause for Fury-Wilder 2? Besides, his words mean nothing, it’s actions that count. Where’s the lawsuit or aggressive enforcement of the contract?

    I don’t know and I don’t care, but what I do know is that it will be one of the biggest events in British boxing history and smash all PPV records in their home country. What’s Wilder able to do in his own country? What other country will pay him millions to stage his fight like Saudi did with AJ? Yet somehow Wilder is the only one making the division exciting? You must be confused

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      #52
      Originally posted by denium
      Wlad got schooled and lost every round against Fury, whereas Joshua went life and death with him and very nearly got KTFO.

      Wilder was a 5yr reigning unbeaten WBC champion, tied for title defenses with Ali, you can't compare him to the likes of Charles Martin or Joseph Parker.

      I agree that it's a 50/50 fight, however there's a reason why Fury is ranked #1 ahead of Joshua by every boxing publication in the world.
      Yet Klitschko took hellacious punishment, was floored multiple times and retired afterwards, waiving his right to a rematch. I wholeheartedly agree that Fury’s win was far more comfortable, I’m just ridiculous the idea that Klitschko was Fury’s “leftovers” when he didn’t come out of that fight with more than a scratch. If Fury caused the damage that AJ did, I’d have less issue with the term you’ve used.

      Wilder and Ali shouldn’t even be in the same sentence - you know just as well as anyone that Wilder’s opponents were complete trash, bar one old Ortiz that had accomplished nothing before or even afterwards to this very day, in contrast an ageing fighter like Povetkin for example.

      Yes Fury is ranked #1 because AJ lost to Ruiz and is probably correctly viewed as the favourite. That said, they both need to fight to settle it and it’s as simple as that.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Blackstarr
        Yet Klitschko took hellacious punishment, was floored multiple times and retired afterwards, waiving his right to a rematch. I wholeheartedly agree that Fury’s win was far more comfortable, I’m just ridiculous the idea that Klitschko was Fury’s “leftovers” when he didn’t come out of that fight with more than a scratch. If Fury caused the damage that AJ did, I’d have less issue with the term you’ve used.
        Boxing is scored via rounds, not damage caused.

        Originally posted by Blackstarr
        Wilder and Ali shouldn’t even be in the same sentence - you know just as well as anyone that Wilder’s opponents were complete trash, bar one old Ortiz that had accomplished nothing before or even afterwards to this very day, in contrast an ageing fighter like Povetkin for example.
        Wilder was an 5yr reigning unbeaten WBC champion who was tied for title defenses with Ali. Those are the facts, his resume is irrelevant.

        Originally posted by Blackstarr
        Yes Fury is ranked #1 because AJ lost to Ruiz and is probably correctly viewed as the favourite. That said, they both need to fight to settle it and it’s as simple as that.
        It's settled because Fury is ranked ahead of Joshua by everyone. He's also the lineal & ring champion.

        1) Fury
        2) Joshua
        3) Everyone else

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          #54
          Originally posted by denium
          Boxing is scored via rounds, not damage caused.

          Wilder was an 5yr reigning unbeaten WBC champion who was tied for title defenses with Ali. Those are the facts, his resume is irrelevant.

          It's settled because Fury is ranked ahead of Joshua by everyone. He's also the lineal & ring champion.

          1) Fury
          2) Joshua
          3) Everyone else
          You’re totally missing my point - I’m saying that Fury didn’t inflict punishment on Klitschko like he did with Wilder, so I don’t see how you can call him leftovers. Besides, AJ took scoring out of the equation so I’m not sure what relevance your point has anyway.

          Your point about resumes is ridiculous...resume is everything. Can a Sunday league football team with a 20-match win streak be compared to the likes of a Liverpool/Man City doing the same? Keeping it to boxing, is the straw weight Wanheng Menayothin viewed as one of the greatest boxers ever because he’s 54-0?

          Oh good I’m glad everything in boxing can be settled with nothing more than a piece of pen and paper...You know I’m talking about having an undisputed champion, and that obviously hasn’t been settled. As I’ve previously said, everyone had Loma as the #1 135-pounder and was a 4-1 favourite, but look what happened there.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Blackstarr
            You’re totally missing my point - I’m saying that Fury didn’t inflict punishment on Klitschko like he did with Wilder, so I don’t see how you can call him leftovers. Besides, AJ took scoring out of the equation so I’m not sure what relevance your point has anyway.

            Your point about resumes is ridiculous...resume is everything. Can a Sunday league football team with a 20-match win streak be compared to the likes of a Liverpool/Man City doing the same? Keeping it to boxing, is the straw weight Wanheng Menayothin viewed as one of the greatest boxers ever because he’s 54-0?

            Oh good I’m glad everything in boxing can be settled with nothing more than a piece of pen and paper...You know I’m talking about having an undisputed champion, and that obviously hasn’t been settled. As I’ve previously said, everyone had Loma as the #1 135-pounder and was a 4-1 favourite, but look what happened there.
            Klitschko is physically to strong and has great balance in the ring with one of the best jabs ever .Fury would be unable to just beat up Wlad at anytime . I would have favored Klitschko in the rematch. He’s no Wilder he has great ring IQ and usually don’t make the same mistakes. A.J defeated a more imposing Wlad and did it in fight 19, it’s much more impressive and with the stoppage.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Blackstarr
              You’re totally missing my point - I’m saying that Fury didn’t inflict punishment on Klitschko like he did with Wilder, so I don’t see how you can call him leftovers. Besides, AJ took scoring out of the equation so I’m not sure what relevance your point has anyway.

              Your point about resumes is ridiculous...resume is everything. Can a Sunday league football team with a 20-match win streak be compared to the likes of a Liverpool/Man City doing the same? Keeping it to boxing, is the straw weight Wanheng Menayothin viewed as one of the greatest boxers ever because he’s 54-0?

              Oh good I’m glad everything in boxing can be settled with nothing more than a piece of pen and paper...You know I’m talking about having an undisputed champion, and that obviously hasn’t been settled. As I’ve previously said, everyone had Loma as the #1 135-pounder and was a 4-1 favourite, but look what happened there.
              Replace 'leftovers' with 'sloppy seconds' if it makes you feel better buddy.

              Only casuals believe that Joshua put up a better performance against Wlad than Fury did.

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                #57
                Originally posted by denium
                Replace 'leftovers' with 'sloppy seconds' if it makes you feel better buddy.

                Only casuals believe that Joshua put up a better performance against Wlad than Fury did.
                I didn’t say that about AJ’s performance did I? Stop being dense - all I said is Fury didn’t inflict any damage on Klitschko, so you can’t ******ly imply that Klitschko was used up after the fight. Whatever term you come up with doesn’t matter to me..it’s all equally the same BS.

                Performance aside, I sure as hell know what every person found infinitely more entertaining and memorable, casual or otherwise. I was rooting for Fury probably as much as you were against Klitschko, but goodness that fight was dreadful.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Blackstarr
                  I didn’t say that about AJ’s performance did I? Stop being dense - all I said is Fury didn’t inflict any damage on Klitschko, so you can’t ******ly imply that Klitschko was used up after the fight. Whatever term you come up with doesn’t matter to me..it’s all equally the same BS.

                  Performance aside, I sure as hell know what every person found infinitely more entertaining and memorable, casual or otherwise. I was rooting for Fury probably as much as you were against Klitschko, but goodness that fight was dreadful.
                  It depends what you like i suppose.

                  I'm a fan of the sweet science, and enjoyed watching Fury school & bamboozle a man who had never previously been outboxed and who had reigned supreme for over 12 years.

                  I can see why you prefer to watch a slugfest. AJ did alright don't get me wrong, it's just a shame that he's gone backwards since that performance.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by _Rexy_
                    We acting like Joshua didn’t run to Africa like Dave Chapelle after his loss?
                    How is that the same or similar?
                    One went on holiday and one went in to hiding with complete radio silence for months

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Blackstarr
                      This is true. You get to the top by unifying 3 of the division’s titles, beating a HoF and undefeated champions, while avenging your only loss in the process, which is exactly what AJ has done.

                      Fury has established himself as the favourite, but he can’t be crowned king until he beats AJ. I only have to point to Loma’s recent defeat that odds and hypothetical scenarios mean nothing.
                      AJ got all his current belts from the fattest champ in history, who didnt even train for the fight.

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