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  • #11
    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
    So you don`t even give Lopez any credit. You just discredit Lomachenko. Boxing doesn`t need "fans" like you.
    Thanks for randomly insulting me

    The story of the fight was Loma "downloading" for the first 7 rounds. And also Loma losing. I didn't want to comment on Lopez's magical thinking.

    Lopez deserves credit but I don't know much about the guy yet. He's only had 16 fights. He looked huge against Loma and had a lot of reach advantage, like he was fighting a small child. He fought very well but let's see how he does when he picks on someone his own size

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post
      Boxing wouldn't survive financially without this.With out it’s Journalist making up things for promoters perks. Boxing would be even better. No sport requires that false hype. We would watch a football team because they are exciting to watch. Same with any boxer.

      This is what all good promoters do - feed a load of load level boxers to their guy then put him in a title fight to cash in.They do this in the beginning to build a fighter. This not what you do for a Champion. If you are the best you should be fighting the best. After tough fights you should get one showcase. However if every fight is a showcase then you are just holding the belt hostage.

      MMA is like a more down-to-earth version of boxing where fans know their fighters can lose and where the fighters don't get to pick their fights. This is all Arum mythology. Fans stay supportive of dominant fighters even beyond a loss. Oscar Delahoya had his most lucrative fight after losses to Mosely and Hopkins. Pacquiao had his biggest pay day against Mayweather and he had 5 losses. Hopkins made way more money after losing to Roy Jones. Tyson made tons of money after Buster Douglas. Losses hurt an up and coming career but if star keeps winning they will maintain support. People stop watching a star when they see them physically decline. Sorry promoters use the 0 story to keep from spreading the wealth and letting other fighters/ promoters in the door. But if you are not fighting the best why would that person deserve the best money? And naturally the financial rewards are much lower. There is only one champion per weight class and they always have losses. MMA is real life. Boxing is fantasy,Boxing is fantasy? WTF? ProWrestling is fantasy, how casual... boxing is a sport. The only difference between UFC MMA and boxing is there is only one governing body. So you don’t have promoters and sanctioning body’s mucking up the sport and business for short-term greed and control.

      Boxing needs the hype to make those huge multi-million fights like Fury and Wilder. Who did Wilder actually beat?And who did Fury ever beat apart from a pre-retirement Wlad? Bro you are on their Agenda what do you mean who did Wilder and Fury Fight. Better questions is who should they have fought while AJ was ducking everyone? GTFOH. The fight was big because they both had enough top 10 guys on there resume to know they were in the top 3. The fight was big because it was a Heavy Weight polarizing clash between races and countries.[/B]

      If they promoted these fights as they really are the earnings would be much much less
      BS BS BS if the promoters let this just be a sport it would make more money. We would have more fans. People get tired of the slick promoter nonsense and that is why they stop watching boxing. Never heard anyone leave the sport because they needed folks to be framed as the best without fighting anyone of worth. People leave because the promoters never make the best fights happen and when they do they try to cheat the other guy.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Fire4231 View Post
        BS BS BS if the promoters let this just be a sport it would make more money. We would have more fans. People get tired of the slick promoter nonsense and that is why they stop watching boxing. Never heard anyone leave the sport because they needed folks to be framed as the best without fighting anyone of worth. People leave because the promoters never make the best fights happen and when they do they try to cheat the other guy.

        No one will pay millions to watch boxing if it was a sport. Boxing is the only fake sport and it's also the one that makes the most money for playing a single game/match/bout. That's not a coincidence

        Also you complain about the hype and then complain about me pointing out Wilder and Fury's over hyped dodgy records. Make up your mind as to what you want

        AJ is 5 years behind them in his career. I'm too lazy to check but I'm sure he fought Wlad before his 20th fight. Maybe check who Fury and Wilder were fighting then? IF in 5 years his record is as bad as fury and wilders I will be attacking him too. Why even bring AJ up?

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post
          No one will pay millions to watch boxing if it was a sport. Boxing is the only fake sport and it's also the one that makes the most money for playing a single game/match/bout. That's not a coincidence

          Also you complain about the hype and then complain about me pointing out Wilder and Fury's over hyped dodgy records. Make up your mind as to what you want

          AJ is 5 years behind them in his career. I'm too lazy to check but I'm sure he fought Wlad before his 20th fight. Maybe check who Fury and Wilder were fighting then? IF in 5 years his record is as bad as fury and wilders I will be attacking him too. Why even bring AJ up?
          You are a casual bro... and As the late Roger Mayweather said. You don’t know sh@t about boxing. You probably thought Hearn was making all the right moves?

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Fire4231 View Post
            You are a casual bro... and As the late Roger Mayweather said. You don’t know sh@t about boxing. You probably thought Hearn was making all the right moves?
            You do realize you couldn't respond to any of my points? and then just tried a lame insult instead?

            If you can't argue/debate then don't bother posting.

            As for Hearn - I don't follow him. I have little idea what he does. I'm not a Hearn fanboy...Why would anyone follow promoters?? That is just weird to me

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post
              You do realize you couldn't respond to any of my points? and then just tried a lame insult instead?

              If you can't argue/debate then don't bother posting.

              As for Hearn - I don't follow him. I have little idea what he does. I'm not a Hearn fanboy...Why would anyone follow promoters?? That is just weird to me
              Bro... When you respond to my points I will respond to yours. You bypassed a whole lot of educated response to reiterate the same nonsensical conclusion. Done wasting time with you guys. People can read, people can scroll back so trying to change the debate in later parts of the thread is just a placebo that make you feel better.

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              • #17
                I don’t see how people want to say Lopez is scared of a rematch when he literally chased down Loma for over two years. If he doesn’t give a rematch it’s out of spite not fear. You can’t voluntarily go into the ring with Loma and be considered scared of anything.

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                • #18
                  Had loma actually threw punches early, he would have been looking up at them lights. He knows this. The guy just isn’t as good as this site and the media hyped him to be. He lost. He got his azz beat. Get over it. He’s an overhyped sore loser. Howard Davis.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Punch on Tap View Post
                    I don’t see how people want to say Lopez is scared of a rematch when he literally chased down Loma for over two years. If he doesn’t give a rematch it’s out of spite not fear. You can’t voluntarily go into the ring with Loma and be considered scared of anything.
                    As you eloquently stated, we know Lopez is not scared of the guy he just beat. He is not scared of the guy the ref saved from a knock out In the 12th.

                    If Loma wanted a rematch he should have built it in the contract. But because he was so certain of the win he didn’t have it.

                    Now his fans are running around trying to get what his ego should have already had in place.

                    But Loma can push for the rematch or he can rebuild elsewhere. Because I
                    if he starts throwing punches earlier it will probably get him knocked all th way out. Teophemo is too atheletic and too slick. Loma won’t win one fight in a trilogy.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by buddyr View Post
                      Had loma actually threw punches early, he would have been looking up at them lights. He knows this. The guy just isn’t as good as this site and the media hyped him to be. He lost. He got his azz beat. Get over it. He’s an overhyped sore loser. Howard Davis.
                      Thank you fo relaying all the common sense these media brainwashed fools don’t seem to have access to. Loma played safe to stay safe. He was shook because he saw the reflexes and felt the power.

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