Parallels between Loma-Teo and Ward-Kov 1

[Boxing-1013]

Bigger guy dominates first 6 or 7 rounds in each fight. One guy up 5-1, other up 6-1.

In the 6-1 fight, the smaller guy wins the next 4 then loses the last round.

In the 5-1 fight, the smaller guy has 6 close rounds with the bigger guy, probably splitting them 3-3. The clearest round was won by the bigger guy.

So Loma rightfully loses, but gets cards of 9-3, 8-4, and 11-1 against him, when he should have lost 7-4 or 8-4. Ward should have lost 8-4 and could have been 9-3 as he had no clear rounds in that fight, yet he gets 3 cards of 7-5, all in his favor.

Loma had no business winning the fight last night, just as Ward had no business winning his vs Kov. Yet after those fights, now Loma was 'exposed' and Ward has been given some hero status.

Just odd how some on here analyze things.

[jack_the_rippuh]

Bro, seriously.

Why is everyone running with Joe Tessitore's belief that Lomachenko won round two?

He did land a solid left late in the round, but people forget he got hurt early in that round and his legs buckled.

Lomachenko didn't win a round until round 8.

[buddyr]

Bro, seriously.

Why is everyone running with Joe Tessitore's belief that Lomachenko won round two?

He did land a solid left late in the round, but people forget he got hurt early in that round and his legs buckled.

Lomachenko didn't win a round until round 8.

They are hurt. Lol. The sad part is that if lomachenko no longer has the success that he had up to this point, his ****ty fan base will abandon him like they did kovalev once he started getting ko’d. I don’t like what these bandwagon posers did to kovalev. That was wrong.

[Squ□redCircle34]

Perception is everything in boxing, Lopez won rounds cuz Loma wasn’t active but when Loma was active he was winning better in those rounds!

Crazy how you get called a nûthugger in today’s society just cuz you have a difference of opinion!

It’s like everyone has to agree cuz the crowd says so, Loma’s arrogance caused him to lose this fight and not also have a rematch clause in a unification championship Match up!

[Boxing-1013]

Bro, seriously.

Why is everyone running with Joe Tessitore's belief that Lomachenko won round two?

He did land a solid left late in the round, but people forget he got hurt early in that round and his legs buckled.

Lomachenko didn't win a round until round 8.

Funny thing is I'm rewatching it, without sound, as I always do when I score them. And round 2 was very close. Lopez is definitely more active, but as far as scoring punches, he only lands like maybe 7, to Loma's 5. Loma had maybe 3 good shots to Lopez's 2 in that round. Give it a rewatch without sound if you can.

But I was referring to rounds 2 and 7, as they were both close enough. General practice is to split close rounds, and 6-1 through 7 was probably the right score. Felt that way live anyway.

They are hurt. Lol. The sad part is that if lomachenko no longer has the success that he had up to this point, his ****ty fan base will abandon him like they did kovalev once he started getting ko’d. I don’t like what these bandwagon posers did to kovalev. That was wrong.

I still like Kov, but I like athletes who are true pros. Kind of why I like Ronaldo. Takes care of himself and his body, doesn't drink etc. Same reason I don't really like McGregor. When you have stamina issues every fight, and drink like a fish, how can you be mad or think you deserve respect when you gas in every fight?

I live Kov's style as a boxer but after the first Ward robbery he just didn't handle it well mentally and just let himself go. It's a shame but as a man you have to be tougher than that.

I never really repped Loma at all. He is undeniably great but at 135 has looked very beatable. Campbell won 4 or 5 rounds against him. Linares was tied before the KO. At 135 he has looked much more human. But I was expecting him to find his footing last night in the fifth round or so, after expecting Teo to keep him cautious in the first 3-4 with his power.

More or less what I expected but Loma really got nothing going until the 7th round. 2nd round, as most of the early rounds really, had not a ton of action. Main difference in that round vs the other 5 in the first 6, is Loma actually threw a few punches lol. And landed 2-3 good ones. In truth it was a close round and honestly really hard to score. Between that and the 7th, Loma should get 1 and Lopez 1.

I actually really really enjoyed the fight last night. Great chess match and then Loma poured in on late and Teo hung in there, even had a 2nd win and closed it out beyond doubt in round 12. Great fight.

[Boxing-1013]

Perception is everything in boxing, Lopez won rounds cuz Loma wasn’t active but when Loma was active he was winning better in those rounds!

Crazy how you get called a nûthugger in today’s society just cuz you have a difference of opinion!

It’s like everyone has to agree cuz the crowd says so, Loma’s arrogance caused him to lose this fight and not also have a rematch clause in a unification championship Match up!

Yeah I really would love to see a rematch. Thought it was a great chess match then Loma finally found something, as he always does, but it was too little too late.

Thanks for your input. I've seen you score fights lately and I have to say I think our scores end up being very similar usually. You seem to score fights without bias and I respect that. Very hard to find on this site or with boxing in general lol.

Loma hardly threw a punch in the first 6 rounds but round 2 was close, as was 7 iirc. 8-11 seemed all Loma and then 12 was Lopez. Great fight and pretty easy to score imho. Better man won but those cards were awful.

[jack_the_rippuh]

Funny thing is I'm rewatching it, without sound, as I always do when I score them. And round 2 was very close. Lopez is definitely more active, but as far as scoring punches, he only lands like maybe 7, to Loma's 5. Loma had maybe 3 good shots to Lopez's 2 in that round. Give it a rewatch without sound if you can..

We can agree to disagree, but I think we both can agree that he won no rounds clearer than rounds 8, 9, 10, and 11 (he did fade late in the 11th though).

[jack_the_rippuh]

In any case, a p4p #1 boxer, who prides himself on his skills more than power should not be losing a fight by four rounds.

[QueensburyRules]

Bigger guy dominates first 6 or 7 rounds in each fight. One guy up 5-1, other up 6-1.

In the 6-1 fight, the smaller guy wins the next 4 then loses the last round.

In the 5-1 fight, the smaller guy has 6 close rounds with the bigger guy, probably splitting them 3-3. The clearest round was won by the bigger guy.

So Loma rightfully loses, but gets cards of 9-3, 8-4, and 11-1 against him, when he should have lost 7-4 or 8-4. Ward should have lost 8-4 and could have been 9-3 as he had no clear rounds in that fight, yet he gets 3 cards of 7-5, all in his favor.

Loma had no business winning the fight last night, just as Ward had no business winning his vs Kov. Yet after those fights, now Loma was 'exposed' and Ward has been given some hero status.

Just odd how some on here analyze things.

- -Only parallel is U stoopid then and now.

[Boxing-1013]

We can agree to disagree, but I think we both can agree that he won no rounds clearer than rounds 8, 9, 10, and 11 (he did fade late in the 11th though).

In any case, a p4p #1 boxer, who prides himself on his skills more than power should not be losing a fight by four rounds.

Yeah he didn't even really get anything going until the 7th, and really the 8th. Live I felt all 4 of those were his. I enjoyed the fight. Good chess match and Loma couldn't get going early enough, I enjoyed it.

Idk he was close with Campbell and Linares in those fights too. At 135 he just isn't the same guy as he was at 130. I think that is clear.

I would say 5 rounds is his ceiling, and 4 is his floor. But that is based on watching it live last night. Rewatching now to actually score it.

- -Only parallel is U stoopid then and now.

That means a lot coming from you