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  • #11
    Originally posted by Juanas View Post
    Honestly it shows that Pac is "smarter" if he knows what it takes to win a fight and Loma doesn't, I think he fought too ****** and is everything but "too smart".
    Yup

    Well said.

    But again Manny is a true all time great he wasnt given anything he took it buy brute force power and will.

    Loma is good but far from a Manny Pacquiao.

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    • #12
      That inner gangster. Its what all great fighters posses that stubborn pride that will get you seriously hurt in life if you dont bow down. In a fight that translate to "Ima die trying" its what Ali Showed vs Foreman, its what Corrales showed vs Castillo, its what makes great fights when a fighter of lesser talent draws from something greater than talent and skills and makes teh fight about something more than the other fighter is willing to risk and this is why lomachenko lost cause he refused to put it all on the line, he doesnt have that inner gangster, he is willing to bow down to survive and life to fight another day.

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      • #13
        Very different types of fighters. Long amateur careers don't produce killers like Pacquaio.

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        • #14
          How have we arrived at the conclusion Loma is more skilled than Manny?

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Truth Seeker View Post
            Manny Pacquiao has far less "skills" than Vasyl Lomachenko.

            Loma-Greatest Amateur of all time, 396-1, Olympic/WC Golds.
            Pacquiao- No Amateur experience, started with no real trainer, poor nutrition, etc.

            Loma- 5ft7, talented boxer/athlete since childhood
            Pacquiao- 5ft5, admits having “no talent” as a boxer

            Loma-Textbook skills, defense, footwork, accuracy, ring IQ, etc.
            Pacquiao- Crude slugger for most of his career, went through bloody wars and got hit/rocked often.

            And Yet......

            Pacquiao manages to go through division after division, win countless fights as an underdog, beat bigger fighters and legends, give us performances of a lifetime, and last year at age 40 beat a young lion in spectacular fashion.

            Loma however seems to have hit his ceiling at 135lbs. Loses to a 23 year old with 15 fights after giving away the first 6 rounds.


            So my question is: What does Manny Pacquiao have, that Lomachenko doesn't?
            ... "Pacquiao- Crude slugger for most of his career"... I stopped here...

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Truth Seeker View Post
              Manny Pacquiao has far less "skills" than Vasyl Lomachenko.

              Loma-Greatest Amateur of all time, 396-1, Olympic/WC Golds.
              Pacquiao- No Amateur experience, started with no real trainer, poor nutrition, etc.

              Loma- 5ft7, talented boxer/athlete since childhood
              Pacquiao- 5ft5, admits having “no talent” as a boxer

              Loma-Textbook skills, defense, footwork, accuracy, ring IQ, etc.
              Pacquiao- Crude slugger for most of his career, went through bloody wars and got hit/rocked often.

              And Yet......

              Pacquiao manages to go through division after division, win countless fights as an underdog, beat bigger fighters and legends, give us performances of a lifetime, and last year at age 40 beat a young lion in spectacular fashion.

              Loma however seems to have hit his ceiling at 135lbs. Loses to a 23 year old with 15 fights after giving away the first 6 rounds.


              So my question is: What does Manny Pacquiao have, that Lomachenko doesn't?
              As I said years ago, Pacquiao has physical capacities which no other fighter has or had, including Loma: 1. Power and 2. Lightning speed.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Truth Seeker View Post
                Manny Pacquiao has far less "skills" than Vasyl Lomachenko.

                Loma-Greatest Amateur of all time, 396-1, Olympic/WC Golds.
                Pacquiao- No Amateur experience, started with no real trainer, poor nutrition, etc.

                Loma- 5ft7, talented boxer/athlete since childhood
                Pacquiao- 5ft5, admits having “no talent” as a boxer

                Loma-Textbook skills, defense, footwork, accuracy, ring IQ, etc.
                Pacquiao- Crude slugger for most of his career, went through bloody wars and got hit/rocked often.

                And Yet......

                Pacquiao manages to go through division after division, win countless fights as an underdog, beat bigger fighters and legends, give us performances of a lifetime, and last year at age 40 beat a young lion in spectacular fashion.

                Loma however seems to have hit his ceiling at 135lbs. Loses to a 23 year old with 15 fights after giving away the first 6 rounds.


                So my question is: What does Manny Pacquiao have, that Lomachenko doesn't?
                The answer is styles.

                Pac is willing to trade shots and tailored his offense to be able to fight against bigger opponents.

                See his moves like his split guard jab and manilla ice.

                Loma on the other hand is much more "eastern European" where their goal is to outbox and out point you.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by kidbazooka View Post
                  Manny is a rare breed it’s not fair to compare Loma to him.

                  On top of that look at both there builds manny has huge calves wide shoulders ripped and a thick neck while Loma is very skinny and narrow all around.
                  Don’t forget his giant head. Loma head isn’t that much bigger than a large orange

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Dr Rumack View Post
                    Very different types of fighters. Long amateur careers don't produce killers like Pacquaio.
                    This part, Loma stayed an amatuer until he was damn near 30 for a reason. These Loma and Usyk were always suspect to me in that regard, you aint supposed to be an amatuer that long.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Truth Seeker View Post
                      Manny Pacquiao has far less "skills" than Vasyl Lomachenko.

                      Loma-Greatest Amateur of all time, 396-1, Olympic/WC Golds.
                      Pacquiao- No Amateur experience, started with no real trainer, poor nutrition, etc.

                      Loma- 5ft7, talented boxer/athlete since childhood
                      Pacquiao- 5ft5, admits having “no talent” as a boxer

                      Loma-Textbook skills, defense, footwork, accuracy, ring IQ, etc.
                      Pacquiao- Crude slugger for most of his career, went through bloody wars and got hit/rocked often.

                      And Yet......

                      Pacquiao manages to go through division after division, win countless fights as an underdog, beat bigger fighters and legends, give us performances of a lifetime, and last year at age 40 beat a young lion in spectacular fashion.

                      Loma however seems to have hit his ceiling at 135lbs. Loses to a 23 year old with 15 fights after giving away the first 6 rounds.


                      So my question is: What does Manny Pacquiao have, that Lomachenko doesn't?
                      Hand Power

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