What makes Latino fighters so great and dominant in boxing?

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  • Boxing Logic
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    #31
    Originally posted by Fists_of_Fury
    Those white people employ tons of work for maids, lawncare workers, orchard pickers, etc... and pay the welfare of those supposed "warrior" Hispanics that cowardly flee their country for better whitey land. Easier to produce boxers in 3rd world sheeitholes.
    Bro, I'm white, and I don't fall for any of the social justice, regressive left wing, totally open borders bull****.

    With all that said, can you please shut the f**k up? Stop trying to pit Hispanics and white people against each other. 99.9% of white people and Hispanics love each other, just like 99.9% of white people and black people love each other, and black people and Hispanics, and so on. It's only the media, and comments like yours, that try to drive a wedge between brothers and sisters in humanity.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Sheikh
      Black fighters have been beating the s&*& out of latino fighters for YEARS
      True.

      Black and Latino fans are the biggest economic demographics in the USA, so black and Latino fighters are escorted to the top of the sport to produce the big money clashes. That's why you get lots of those clashes. But then, I assume, more Latinos bet money on the fight, in favor of the Latino fighter, than vice versa, so that's why the black fighter usually wins, so that the house makes money.

      It has nothing to do with racial superiority. Just look at the name of the supposed "best" not just black boxer, but boxer overall, of the era. Floyd MONEY Mayweather. 51-0. But if he only sold tickets like Lomachenko sells, instead of like Floyd sells, then he would probably be 46-5 instead of 51-0. You might not believe me but IMO I'm just being real with you. With that said, regardless of how his "fights" would have gone had he not been as popular, you can't take away that he had incredible handspeed and skills. But so did Pernell, and he still **** the bed vs Oscar. Why? Because Oscar sells. Danny Jacobs got fast hands too, but he don't sell... now he got two L's already. So does Erickson Lubin, but he don't sell... now he got KO'd early by a Charlo. The Charlos are from Houston Texas, a big boxing market...

      And yeah, one of them took an L... what does it matter, there's two of them? Not to mention the L came on the premier of PBC on Fox, and helped get the Charlos, and the sport, extra buzz. Then he wins the belt back in his very next fight, by KO no less. No harm no foul. Just like AJ and Ruiz put DAZN on the map. One loss to put DAZN on the map, and to put another Mexican cash cow on the map, and then AJ gets the belt right back to keep AJ viable in the UK.

      The house always wins.

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      • YGriffith
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        #33
        White: 13 titles
        Black: 15 titles
        Latino: 20 titles
        Other: 16 titles
        Vacant: 4

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          #34
          Originally posted by PhilSpektor39
          You really think Loma's gonna take off the first half of the fight in the rematch!?
          You really think there will be a rematch? Loma is a 32 year old Ukrainian who can't speak english. He is sitting in a division full of young black American boxers like Tank and Haney, and young Hispanic-American boxers, like Ryan Garcia and Teofimo Lopez. Now that Loma has been used as a stepping stone to help Teofimo Lopez "arrive" on the scene, it is all set up for the usual recipe for successful big fights in America, especially on PPV, Hispanic boxer vs black American boxer. Tank Davis vs Leo Santa Cruz in a few weeks is IMO designed just to set the stage even more.

          The only thing that truly surprises me is that Canelo vs Andre Ward never happened. Maybe it still will? Otherwise, the table being set for Teofimo vs Tank/Haney, and Ryan Garcia vs one of them down the line as well, is right in line with how boxing normally operates. Not to mention Ramirez at 140 and all the Americans at 147, where the real money is.

          Even the best lightweight of all time, Roberto Duran, ended up being used as a stepping stone for American welterweights and middleweights. First Sugar Ray, then Hearns, then Hagler. Why would it be any different with Loma? Like Duran, he's not American. Unlike Duran, he's not even Hispanic! Like not at all! I knew he would lose to one or more of these American and Hispanic fighters eventually, I just didn't know it would be this soon. Maybe he simply never crossed over in the US even as much as I thought.

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            #35
            Originally posted by YGriffith
            White: 13 titles
            Black: 15 titles
            Latino: 20 titles
            Other: 16 titles
            Vacant: 4
            Who cares. I'm struggling to figure out which is more worthless, "titles" in boxing in 2020, or race battles.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Boxing Logic
              Who cares. I'm struggling to figure out which is more worthless, "titles" in boxing in 2020, or race battles.
              The one who made this thread care, the ones arguing care and you care enough to click on this thread...so yeah.

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                #37
                Originally posted by kidbazooka
                I’m not even talking about the past greats but from current times guys like Canelo, Teo, Estrada, Navarette, Vergil, Ryan, Benavidez etc.

                Ridiculous amount of boxing greats.
                If you call them "greats" then you DNSAB lol

                I as a white dude will tell you one thing, the only time Latino and white fighters look good is when black fighters retire.

                Mayweather toyed with canelo and JMM...

                And with Ryan..I hope you don't mean the little Instagram clown Ryan Garcia...him great?

                And to date I can not understand why people called Chavez Sr. great, the dude made a name for himself fighting barbers,taxi drivers and other workers who took boxing as an part time job to make a bit of money to support their families lol...when the black and white champs came around he looked like the alcoholic he was

                But yea you said it all when you had to mention Ryan as an great fighter....and Teo did a great job well done to him but I said it before the fight..Loma just an over rated tippy tappy fighter with a big casual fan boy base.

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                • Boxing Logic
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by YGriffith
                  The one who made this thread care, the ones arguing care and you care enough to click on this thread...so yeah.
                  I only clicked on it to explain my opinion why Latino boxers dominant boxing, and it has nothing to do with race, but, IMO, with the demographics of the boxing audience. Whatever the consumer will pay more money for, that's what the salesmen, the promoters, will put on store shelves. So as long as Hispanics and African Americans in America pay more money to watch boxers of their demographics than Ukrainians and Russians in America pay to watch boxers of their demographics, Hispanic and African American boxers in America will usually win the big fights against Ukrainians and Russians in America.

                  That's how I see it. Now you might say, "But how can promoters possibly manipulate it like that? They're not allowed in the ring. Just because they might prefer Teofimo Lopez beats Lomachenko, it's not up to them, it's up to Teofimo Lopez and Lomachenko in the ring."

                  And to that I would say, that before their big P4P fights against more marketable American and Hispanic stars, Lomachenko, Kovalev, and GGG were a combined 81-1. Then in those fights, they went from 81-1 to 0-5-1. In P4P fights against more marketable American and Hispanic fighters, GGG, Kovalev, and Loma are a combined 0-5-1. They have zero wins in six attempts lol. Now what are the f**king odds of that? I think they were the favorite in every fight, too, lol. So the favorite, who is supposed to win more than 50% of the time, ends up not winning 6 times in a row. That's like a coin flipping on the same side six times in a row. The odds of that happening without manipulation are 1.56%.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Boxing Logic
                    I only clicked on it to explain my opinion why Latino boxers dominant boxing, and it has nothing to do with race, but, IMO, with the demographics of the boxing audience. Whatever the consumer will pay more money for, that's what the salesmen, the promoters, will put on store shelves. So as long as Hispanics and African Americans in America pay more money to watch boxers of their demographics than Ukrainians and Russians in America pay to watch boxers of their demographics, Hispanic and African American boxers in America will usually win the big fights against Ukrainians and Russians in America.

                    That's how I see it. Now you might say, "But how can promoters possibly manipulate it like that? They're not allowed in the ring. Just because they might prefer Teofimo Lopez beats Lomachenko, it's not up to them, it's up to Teofimo Lopez and Lomachenko in the ring."

                    And to that I would say, that before their big P4P fights against more marketable American and Hispanic stars, Lomachenko, Kovalev, and GGG were a combined 81-1. Then in those fights, they went from 81-1 to 0-5-1. In P4P fights against more marketable American and Hispanic fighters, GGG, Kovalev, and Loma are a combined 0-5-1. They have zero wins in six attempts lol. Now what are the f**king odds of that? I think they were the favorite in every fight, too, lol. So the favorite, who is supposed to win more than 50% of the time, ends up not winning 6 times in a row. That's like a coin flipping on the same side six times in a row. The odds of that happening without manipulation are 1.56%.
                    Man you didnt really have to write something that long,i'm not arguing for either side(i'm in 'other') or anything i just posted that so people could have a better idea of how titles are distributed,nothing more nothing less.

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                    • Armchairhero
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by kidbazooka
                      I’m not even talking about the past greats but from current times guys like Canelo, Teo, Estrada, Navarette, Vergil, Ryan, Benavidez etc.

                      Ridiculous amount of boxing greats.

                      Because you are all short and skinny, so you have an abundance of talent at the lower weights😉

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